How to drain a car battery, starring my 95-year-old neighbor’s daily driver

Rob Siegel

My next-door neighbor Jeanette is a 95-year-old woman. She’s healthy, independent, and pretty spry for her age. And she still drives—she uses her 21,000-mile 2012 Honda Accord to go to the grocery store, the hairdresser, and to the nursing home to visit her 102-year-old brother. Unfortunately, this past fall, the car began having a problem where, after not being driven for a few days, she’d come out to drive it and find that the battery was dead.

So-called “parasitic drains”—things that run the battery down while the car is sitting—can be a problem in any car, but they’re typically worse in newer cars. The electrical systems in cars without computers and onboard diagnostics are usually very simple, so unless there’s something like an aftermarket power antenna that’s perpetually trying to go up or down, there’s very little that remains on when the key is out of the ignition. If there is a problem, the time-honored method of dealing with it is to put a multimeter set to measure amperage between the negative battery cable and the negative terminal on the battery, measure the drain, then pull fuses out until it goes away and see what devices are on that fuse. If the devices listed in the owner’s manual for the fuse all appear to be behaving, you may need to unscrew the fuse box and examine the wires being powered by the mystery fuse, as sometimes someone has wired things, shall we say, creatively. But even still, the simplicity inherent in the car’s age makes it a very tractable problem.

However, as cars crossed into the 1990s, parasitic drains became much more difficult to diagnose. They can come from many different things: heated door locks, stuck central locking actuators, alarm systems, control modules that don’t go to sleep because the microswitches on the hood, and doors don’t think they’re closed … on and on.

And finding the cause is far more difficult than on an old car. While a vintage car might have only six or 12 fuses, a modern car typically has dozens, and systems may use more than one fuse. And because you need to get the control modules to go to sleep for the current levels to drop, you have to close the doors, hood, and trunk, or at least simulate their closure by either disconnecting the switches or rolling the latches closed. Then, instead of pulling fuses, you leave them installed and check the voltage drop across the back of each fuse to infer the current passing through it. Then you need to see what systems are on that fuse, but due to the complexity of those systems, you may need to consult a wiring diagram, which on modern cars is far more complicated than the old two-page foldout and instead often takes the form of a current track diagram. Like I said, a pain.

One of the best end-to-end videos I’ve seen of a professional mechanic doing this, where he methodically diagnoses the cause of a drain on a ninth-gen Civic to be a bad door lock actuator, can be seen here:

Watching it is instructive because it shows that, if the cause isn’t something simple like a dome or map light being left on (or the visor light not shutting off when its cover is flipped closed), or something laughable like an aftermarket seat heater being wired in, a comprehensive diagnosis is a beastly amount of work.

For this reason, if the drain is minor (e.g., if it drains the battery in days, not hours), many people simply live with it by either installing a battery cut-off switch or using a battery tender, maintainer, or trickle charger. As for me, I have too many cars to make trickle chargers practical (and besides, five of the cars are stored in a warehouse where there’s not easy access to electricity), so when I have cars sitting in storage for the winter, I simply disconnect the batteries. For cars that are in my driveway and driven only occasionally, I use battery cut-off switches.

Back to Jeanette’s battery-draining problem. It appeared to be getting worse; the car wouldn’t start after it had been sitting for about five days. She’d have AAA jump it. Eventually she took it to the Honda dealer. They tested the car’s two-year-old Honda-branded battery, said there was nothing wrong with it, and told her that she needs to drive the car more frequently and take it for longer drives on the highway. While there’s some truth to that, a) this is a problem that the car didn’t always have, and b) telling a 95-year-old woman who doesn’t drive on the highway that she needs to drive the car on the highway was neither terribly sensitive nor constructive. So, the battery kept running down, and she kept calling AAA. Eventually the problem happened enough that she used up her AAA benefit.

One morning she called me saying she had a hairdresser appointment in 30 minutes and the battery was dead. I checked it and found that it was down to 11.5 volts. I put it on charge and told her that, if necessary, I’d jump the car, but 30 minutes later it started. She asked, “What about if it dies when I want to drive home?” I said, “The hairdresser is two miles away. If that happens, call me and I’ll come and jump it.” (It was fine). I thought about saying, “I’ll just drive you to the hairdresser,” but you don’t mess with someone’s independence.

But the next week, she called me one morning in tears, saying that her brother had fallen in the nursing home, she needed to go see him, the car wouldn’t start, and she didn’t know what to do.

A few weeks ago, I wrote a piece about why working on other people’s cars is often a bad idea, but if I can’t help my 95-year-old neighbor out with a dead battery, I’m not, well, me. So, into the valley of the parasitic drain rode the man with the white hat.

The approach I use for this is four-fold. First, is there an obvious smoking gun? Second, is the alternator charging the battery? Third, is the battery obviously bad? Fourth, is there a measurable drain that’s above an acceptable limit?

I put a jump-pack on the battery and examined the car. I found no parking or interior lights on, and there was nothing plugged into the cigarette lighter socket (they’re not on without the key turned anyway; more on that in a moment). OK, so no smoking gun.

I jump-started the car and tested the voltage at the battery with a multimeter set to measure voltage. It read 14.3 volts, indicating that the alternator and its internal regulator were correctly charging the battery. This verified that whatever was going on wasn’t due to the alternator not charging the battery, as was the case recently with both my 2003 BMW 530i and my 1996 Winnebago Rialta.

Next, I tested the battery. I have a nifty little Cen-Tech digital battery analyzer I bought from Harbor Freight about eight years ago. There are now many similar products available on Amazon for as low as $30. These are referred to as “battery testers” or “load-testers,” but they don’t actually put a big load on the battery like an old-school carbon pile tester. Instead, they infer battery condition by conducting what’s essentially a resistance measurement across the terminals. On the Cen-Tech, if the reading is less than 5 milliohms, the battery is in very good condition. If it’s over 10, it’s toast. If it’s in the middle, it’s a gray area. I’ve found that this reading correlates well with the battery’s behavior—that is, batteries that don’t hold a charge have high resistance readings and vice versa.

I fully charged the Accord’s two-year-old Honda battery, tested it with the Cen-Tech, and found the reading to be about 6.5 milliohms—slightly higher than a new battery, but not awful. The analyzer also showed the battery to be at nearly 90 percent of its original 490 CCA capacity. So, at worst the battery was slightly weak, but there was nothing glaringly wrong with it.

Digital Battery Analyzer reading
These moderately-priced digital battery analyzers are very handy. Rob Siegel

With the alternator working fine and the battery not obviously bad, I took a direct current drain measurement. While you can just set a multimeter to measure amperage and put it between the negative battery post and its cable, it’s best if you do this with a $10 battery disconnect switch, as this method eliminates the big amperage surges that can come with directly connecting a multimeter and having all the current of the car’s electrical system suddenly flow through it. To do this, you:

  • Install the disconnect switch on the negative side of the battery.
  • Make sure the switch is engaged (is on). This forces any startup current to flow through the switch and not through the meter.
  • Set the multimeter to measure DC current and connect it across the switch as shown in the photo below.
  • Flip the switch to disengage it (to shut it off). This forces all current to flow through the meter, generating a reading. Remember that, in this configuration, you want to measure ONLY parasitic drain. You do NOT want to see what the drain is with lots of devices turned on, as that can easily exceed the limit of the multimeter. If the meter has a fuse, that can blow it. If it doesn’t, it can blow up the meter. WHATEVER YOU DO, DON’T TRY TO START THE CAR!
  • Lock the car, as this is usually necessary to get the control modules to go to sleep.
  • Watch the meter. You’ll probably see a current surge of single numbers of amps as the central locking actuates, then see it drop into the hundreds of milliamps as the interior lights wait to go out. Some amount of time later, the readings should drop into the tens of milliamps as the control modules go to sleep. This may take a few minutes or may be as long as 40 minutes. It varies by make and model. To find out what it is for your car, you may need to do some reading in a user’s forum.

In my case, within a very short amount of time after locking Jeanette’s car, the reading stabilized at a little under 50 milliamps.

Digital Battery Analyzer terminal connection points
Note how I’ve connected the multimeter leads on either side of the battery disconnect switch. Rob Siegel

If you don’t have a feel for amperage, you can convert it to the more familiar unit of watts with watts = amps x volts. The car has a 12-volt electrical system, so something drawing five amps is consuming 60 watts of power. You know what a 60-watt bulb is. Now you know that it would draw 5 amps. That’s a lot of current. In the world of parasitic drains, a drain of several amps is really big, and likely caused by something that’s actually generating heat, like an actual heater, a bright light bulb, or an electric motor. A drain of hundreds of milliamps could be something like a small bulb (a little 5-watt bulb would draw about .42 amps, or 420 milliamps), or a stuck actuator.

Now, the oft-quoted industry standard for an “acceptable” parasitic drain is 50 milliamps. So … was anything actually wrong with Jeanette’s car? It was difficult to say. It would’ve almost been preferable had I seen a much bigger drain that clearly indicated a problem.

I really wasn’t sure how to deal with it. This wasn’t my car. I didn’t have the room in my garage to do the hours of work required to try to diagnose it further, and I wasn’t certain that the thing to do was have Jeanette spend hundreds of dollars having a qualified shop chase a drain that might not be of much consequence, even if a problem existed. Yet the battery was draining sufficiently after four or five days that it caused the car not to start.

So, what followed was an odd sequence of bumping my head into the wall of why the normal workarounds appear to be to be unworkable.

I’d already installed a battery disconnect switch to enable me to properly do the drain measurement. If this were my car, that would’ve already solved the problem—I’d simply open the hood and flip the switch when I park the car in the driveway, then repeat the process when I need to drive it. But it’s simply not reasonable to expect a 95-year-old non-car-nut owner to do that.

The next obvious idea was to set her up with some sort of a battery tender or maintainer. On paper, this sounds like a slam-dunk. Unfortunately, she doesn’t park the car in her garage in the winter, as her driveway slopes slightly downhill and she doesn’t want the danger of slipping during that walk. There is an electrical outlet on the lamp post at the top of the driveway. This was what I used to charge the battery. I thought that if I set up a trickle charger there and could plug it into the Accord’s cigarette lighter socket, she’d be all set; all she’d need to do was disconnect the trickle charger from the extension cord to the lamp post.

But there was a two-fold issue with that. First, the cigarette lighter socket in the Accord isn’t active unless the key is turned to the accessories setting, so it would need to be connected to the battery instead. Like with the battery disconnect switch, I’m not going to ask her to open and close the hood whenever she needs to drive. Yes, I could permanently wire a little pigtail to the battery and have it protrude through the front grille (and I may do that, as I did with the disconnect switch, simply to make things easier on me when I help her out), but that brings us to the second problem, which is that one of the times I had the charger briefly hooked up, I watched her nearly trip over the cables. So even if she can plug and unplug a connector whenever she uses and parks the car, I’m very leery of anything that puts wires in her driveway.

Bottom line: I am not going to do anything that even slightly increases the possibility of a 95-year-old woman hurting herself. As health care professionals say, “First, do no harm.”

Silver Honda Accord rear three quarter
She has a garage but leaves the Accord at the top of the driveway. Rob Siegel

So, even though the battery wasn’t obviously bad, I replaced it—I got her a high-quality Interstate MTX-24F absorbed glass mat (AGM) battery with a 710 CCM rating. I’m hoping that the combination of the battery’s newness, 45 percent more capacity (at least in terms of cold cranking amps), and its AGM construction will buy the ability for to it sit for longer and behave better. At $229.95 ($242 with tax) directly from Interstate, it’s the most I’ve ever paid for a battery. (To be clear, she reimbursed me.)

[Quick digression: Costco has slightly discounted prices on Interstate batteries, and I got excited when I saw online that they offered the Costco version of this battery for $180, but on calling my local store, I learned that for some reason, Costco no longer carries Interstate AGM batteries. A web search unearthed a number of posts from folks who’ve had this same disappointment.]

Battery in car quick connection ground
Pricey little bugger. Rob Siegel

A friend of mine had the interesting idea of installing a battery-charging solar panel and leaving it on the back deck under the rear windshield. The idea is that this would eliminate any driveway wires to trip over or connectors to unplug. It wouldn’t be as reliable as a trickle charger or battery tender, but any battery charging it would supply would be better than nothing. If the cigarette lighter socket was active without the key, this would be a great solution. Without that, I’d need to wire it in place, preferably directly to the battery, and I’m a bit hesitant to do that in a car that isn’t mine. But I’m thinking about it.

In the meantime, I’ll check the battery voltage weekly and see how much it’s dropping. And I’ll make some calls to find a local garage who knows how to perform proper parasitic drain diagnostics. Just in case.

Sometimes we simply wind up being responsible for certain things. Helping my 95-year-old neighbor remain independent by making sure the battery in her car stays charged isn’t a big deal to me. But as my mother used to say, what isn’t a big deal to you might be a big deal to someone else.


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    God bless you Rob.
    Your patience and dedication are truly admirable.

    It’s too bad there wasn’t an obvious “smoking gun”, to remedy.

    A few months ago I had a very similar experience. One afternoon, the radio in my 2002 de Ville acted very strangely, and the next morning the battery was dead. At least I had a suspect.

    A bit of online searching led me to disconnect the fuses to both the “Head Unit” of the radio AND the audio power amp, which was probably where the most current was going to.
    That solved the battery problem.

    Now, of course, I have no radio OR some of the car’s features accessed by that Head Unit.
    I’m still considering what direction to take, since it’ll probably be costly, and my current (sorry) situation can’t afford it.

    – Carmine

    Todays cars and AGM batteries have created a great issue out there. I dealt with warranties on a number of battery lines and found ignorance on new AGM batteries to be at fault for many warranties.

    Todays cars do drain batteries just sitting. But AGM batteries if they are below 10.5 often will not take a charge on a conventional charger. You need an AGM charger.

    Most of our customers are racers and or car collectors so I recommend to anyone buying an AGM or is storing a newer car to make sure you have a Battery Tender. Odds are your AGM is not bad it is just below the charging point of your charger.

    Also buy a charger able to charge an AGM. You can also parallel another battery into tricking the older charger to charge the AGM.

    I would recommend anyone who has not been catching up to read up on new batteries and the new electrical systems. While electricity has not changed the ways we use it has changed enough that often what worked no longer works the same. Cars use so much power and they rely on a small 12 volt battery. This is only done by better power management via the computer and BCM.

    I’ve always charged my AGM batteries without an AGM charger with no problem. Frankly, I’ve never seen a specific AGM charger since they aren’t that different from a regular battery.

    A regular charger will work with AGM batteries, to a point, as hyperv6 said. Go to Battery Tender’s web site and you’ll see and learn about the difference between regular and AGM chargers.

    Rob, that was very nice of you to help your neighbor out. Plus your neighbor paid for the new battery and you made $250 by writing it up and publishing it as a story on Hagerty. A win win.

    Given your results, I suspect that the Honda dealer may have been on the right track. My mother is also an infrequent driver, and has had a persistent problem with dead batteries over the last year or so. My sister just replaced her battery – which was less than 6 months old as that is when I replaced the battery recently. Just about every interior and underhood light has been removed (by my mother attempting to fix the problem herself)… but the problem persists. This is all after going through all of the normal charging system and parasitic draw checks with no faults found. I tell her to drive the car more, so she tells me that she goes out and starts it if she hasn’t been out in a while. I suspect that the amount of run time after starts in either case is not enough to replenish what was taken by the start. I suspect that the ultimate fix will be a cut-off switch inside the cabin

    As a bi-vocational Pastor, let me thank you for helping your neighbor Rob. We need more people looking after their neighbors. I use my shop, time and talents to help as many as I can, it is as much a part of my ministry as Preaching on Sunday morning. We all have abilities that can be used to enrich someone’s life, if we are just willing to take the time to do so.

    My Sprite has one fuse for the horn and one for everything else. I don’t think parasitic drain was invented in 1959.

    On many Hondas the door lock switches can stick in lock or unlock. If she regularly uses the switches to do either, and they stick, it will keep the modules awake, about 250 mA draw, that’ll kill the battery in about 2 days. The multiplex modules that control the locks don’t keep trying to lock or unlock the doors when the switch is stuck, it just keeps the network awake, expecting an input. If her car has bluetooth, that module is known to have issues as well as the homelink module.

    Installed a small solar panel on my dad’s trailer (10w) to keep the onboard batteries maintained while it sits. No issues years later. Good to use a ~$10 charge controller with the panel so you can’t possibly overcharge the battery, and just as important, not allow the panel to discharge the battery at night, which is a thing.

    Directly wire an inexpensive solar panel into the fuse box and throw it on the dash. That’s solved the parasitic drain problem I’ve had with the three infrequently used Suburbans I’ve owned over the last 25 years.

    I had an ’89 Saturn that had a similar problem. Once I flipped down the rear seat, and could see the trunk light was on continuously. The switch was broken. Later on the same car, the dash would go dead or flash for no known reason. Turns out the previous owner had the battery replaced to fix the problem caused by the trunk light. Unfortunately, they stripped the GM style side-mount battery screw. The connection to the battery was intermittent. I had to replace the almost new battery. I had to hacksaw off the battery cable. I did not appreciate the snickering at Autozone. They assumed I was too stupid to know how to unscrew the cable.

    Another case: My girlfriend (at the time) had an ’80s Mustang that had the battery draining problem. I couldn’t find the problem, so I decided to check the ECM. In those days it used a Ford EEC-IV controller (before OBD was standard). In order to read out codes, you had to cycle the power to the controller by turning on/off the ignition to start the process of reading the codes. When I did this, the controller did not respond. I concluded the controller must be on all the time. I finally found a relay that was supposed to turn off power to the controller. A couple of taps to the relay freed it up, and the battery problems were fixed.

    Rob, That Fluke meter has a Min/Max feature, you should use it. It will report the highest & lowest readings encountered during the duration of your test. If the car sits for days without being driven, let it sit for those idle days, then when she needs it, check to see what the highest reading was. You may find that, for example, there was a 300mA spike that could have come at 3:30 AM on Tuesday morning when everyone (including the car), should have been asleep. If that spike happened frequently, you now know there is a significant draw and it’s not just the car not being driven often enough. That’s when the fun begins to track it down and correct it.

    Since it is a new problem you shouldn’t have to drive it to fix it. Not sure if it has a clock or what type of clock it has. If it has a clock I would start there. Many older cars went dead after a few days from this problem. Fixed many older cars by disconnecting it.

    So this article left us hanging… with No definite resolution. Even a New Battery will eventually wear down. Was the problem ever resolved

    My Mom had a Grand Am I never could find the parasitic draw on. Wound up putting an automatic cut off switch on it. If it got down to I think it was like 11.5 volts, it would isolate the battery from the system, and you had to open the hood and depress a button to rest. That was 30 years ago, maybe they make one now that has a remote reset that could be installed inside the car. BTW, you’re a good guy Rob

    Yes they do have an automatic low voltage cut off switch with a remote activation switch that can be mounted inside the car. Some even activate automatically when a load is applied in any circuit in the car. I used one for many years on an old truck with a bunch of electrical equipment mounted in it that was impossible to isolate.

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