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One-, Two-, Three-, or Four-Wire Alternator?
Last week, I talked about troubleshooting a car-died-while-driving condition on my 1969 Lotus Elan +2, which I eventually traced to a broken contact face—on a set of points that didn’t even have 300 miles on them. In the piece, I said that it happened while I was out for something of a victory lap in the car, having just diagnosed and repaired an overvoltage condition. I thought I’d circle back and describe that, as I’d never encountered this kind of charging-system problem before.
As I described in this piece for Hagerty eight years ago, a car’s charging system not only keeps the battery charged, it also feeds the demands of the electrical systems while the car is running. The resting voltage of the battery should be around 12.6 volts, but when the engine is running, the charging system should output about 13.5 to about 14.2 volts. People often think that the alternator is the charging system, but really, the charging system consists of the battery, the alternator, the voltage regulator, and the cables connecting them.
As its name implies, the job of the voltage regulator is to adjust how much voltage the alternator is pumping into the car’s electrical system. Without the regulator to moderate it, the alternator outputs about 17 volts, which is enough to literally boil the acid in the battery, producing that characteristic rotten-eggs smell. The voltage regulator is basically a switch that opens and closes rapidly in order to supply an average voltage in the range of (roughly) 13.5 to 14.2 volts.
On most cars built before 1975, the alternator and voltage regulator are separate units, with the regulator being a box, often mounted on the inner fender wall of the engine compartment, with mechanical contact points inside it that look quite similar to ignition points. In addition to the thick “B+” battery cable post that’s on the back of every alternator, there are typically three wires connecting the alternator and regulator (on European cars they’re labeled D+, D-, and DF). So, if the regulator itself fails, or if any of these three wires or the connectors at both ends break (that’s nine things to go wrong), the alternator won’t charge the battery.
Beginning in about the late 1970s, cars began coming with solid-state voltage regulators that were integrated with the alternator. This design is inherently more reliable than that of the external regulator and its failure-prone wiring. If you’re going to road-trip your car, it’s a good idea to upgrade to what’s often mistakenly called a “single-wire alternator” (we’ll get to that).

Whether internal or external, mechanical or solid-state, voltage regulators usually fail in the open position, where they’re not bringing the alternator into the charging circuit at all. The result is that, when the engine is running, nothing is charging the battery, and the voltage soon drops from 12.6V to low enough that the car won’t start without a jump. Eventually the voltage drops so low that, while the car is running, it will sputter and die because there isn’t enough voltage to fire the coil. On a car with an external regulator, you can try to troubleshoot it and see if the cause is a broken wire or an unseated connector (it often is), but if the car has an internal regulator, there’s no choice but to replace it, and if that doesn’t fix the problem, to replace the alternator.
External mechanical regulators do sometimes fail in the closed position. This causes the alternator to go “full field,” output 17 volts, and, as I said, boil the sulphuric acid in the battery. I described this situation here during a road trip two years ago; I eventually traced a companion’s problem with pitted points to a voltage regulator that was stuck in the closed position, but I kicked myself for not immediately identifying the sulphur smell as boiling battery acid.
Another difference between older and newer charging systems is whether and how well the regulator senses the electrical load and increases the alternator’s on-time to raise the voltage. In the vintage BMWs with original, external mechanical regulators with which I’m most familiar, my experience is that, basically, they don’t—or if they do, they don’t do it particularly well. When running with no electrical accessories switched on, I never, ever see 14.2 volts. I’m lucky if I see 13.5. With lights and wipers on, it may well drop below 13. With lights and air conditioning, it may dip alarmingly close to 12.6. Hey, the car is 50 years old; it’s doing the best it can.
Modern computerized cars go one better: The ECU knows what the voltage demand is, and there’s typically a plug on the back of the alternator where the ECU supplies a signal to tell the alternator/regulator to raise or lower the voltage.
Above, I mentioned the “one-wire” alternator. While there are single-wire alternators with only a fat B+ wire going to the battery and/or fuse box, most 25-to-40-year-old cars that are equipped with internal regulators have two-wire alternators. The second, smaller wire is usually labeled D+ and goes to the alternator/battery warning light on the dashboard. This light is actually part of the charging system, and is used to bootstrap the alternator into producing current. Once it does, the light goes out. When you upgrade an alternator-and-external-regulator configuration to a two-wire alternator with an internal regulator, you typically need to find the D+ wire, splice a new connector onto it, and plug it into the back of the new alternator.
There are folks who turn two-wire alternators into single-wire alternators by making a little jumper and permanently connecting the D+ terminal to B+, but I’ve always been hesitant to do it. It disables the battery warning light, and on a classic car, I’m just so accustomed to cracking the key to ignition, verifying that both the oil and battery warning lights come on, then starting the car and verifying that they both go out.

So, with that background, here’s what happened with the Elan +2.
When I bought the car last fall and began sorting it out, I put a voltmeter on the battery and verified that, with the engine running, it read about 14 volts. At that point, the car had many needs, so I was happy that the charging system didn’t appear to be among them. This spring, I solved a hot-running problem by replacing the unbranded cooling fans (which turned out to be puller fans in a pusher configuration, wired with their polarity reversed) with a proper set of Spal pusher fans. Anxious to check this problem off as “solved,” I took the car for a drive to watch the engine temperature as the fans turned on. I also plugged in a cigarette-lighter voltmeter so I could see what effect the fans had on the charging voltage. To my stunned surprise, I saw that, as soon as I began driving the car and the revs came up, the reading was over 15 volts. Yeesh! I turned on the fans and headlights, and the voltage fell to about 14, but as soon as I shut them back off, it immediately climbed back over 15.
Now, these cig-lighter meters aren’t terribly accurate; I mainly use them to be certain that the running voltage is simply higher than the resting voltage. But a reading over 15 volts was cause for concern. I came straight home and tried another plug-in voltmeter. It read even higher, about 15.6 volts. So I took out my trusty Fluke multimeter and checked the voltage at the battery. It confirmed that what I was seeing was basically accurate: The charging system was outputting about 15 ½ volts. Any higher and I would’ve likely smelled sulphur.
I’ve had my ’74 Lotus Europa Twin Cam Special for 12 years, but I’ve only owned the Elan +2 since last fall. Although they share the same engine, not all their accessories are the same. The Europa came with its original alternator, but it took some research to learn that the Elan +2 is old enough that it originally came with a generator.

I looked closely at what is currently installed in the car, and it appeared to be a two-wire alternator. It looked very similar to a Denso alternator that was sold as part of a conversion package by a known Lotus parts house. On closer examination, I found that it is actually a Mitsubishi A430. I even found 13-year-old receipt for it in the folder from the previous owner.
I did some reading on common vintage Lotus alternator conversions, and it initially appeared that there was supposed to be a little voltage adjustment on the back of the alternator, but mine didn’t have it. I looked into replacing the internal regulator, but then learned that it’s not the two-screws-and-out-comes-the-regulator-and-the-integral-brush-pack design that it is on my BMWs.

Then I saw a reference to the “voltage sensing line” on the back of the alternator. I looked at my car, and sure, enough, next to the terminal labeled “L” for “Lamp” was a second terminal labeled “S” for “Sensing.” This was something I wasn’t familiar with—a three-wire alternator. For these, the idea is to run a sensing wire from battery positive to the “S” terminal so it can sense the electrical load that the car is actually trying to draw from the battery. On the Elan +2, the battery is in the trunk, so I simply made a short jumper wire and connected it to “B+,” which is directly connected to the battery anyway.

The jumper wire solved the problem. The over-voltage condition immediately went away, and the charging voltage was capped at about 13.5 volts.
In truth, all alternators are supposed to be “voltage-sensing,” but those without a sensing wire read the voltage from the same line they’re outputting it on. The use of a sensing wire makes, well, sense: In theory, the voltage coming out of the alternator should be the same as what it is at the battery. In practice, due to voltage drop, it isn’t.
Here’s the full alternator-wire taxonomy, at least as it applies to the alternators I’ve dealt with:
- A single-wire alternator has an internal regulator and uses the fat B+ wire as the voltage output to the battery/fuse box, the sensing wire, and the bootstrap wire.
- A two-wire alternator has an internal regulator and uses the fat B+ wire as the voltage output to the battery/fuse box and as the sensing wire, but has a separate D+ wire to the battery indicator light that acts as the source of bootstrap current.
- A three-wire alternator has an internal regulator and uses the fat B+ wire as the voltage output to the battery/fuse box, but has a separate D+ wire to the battery indicator light that acts as the source of bootstrap current, and a separate voltage-sensing wire.
- A four-wire alternator from the 1970s uses the fat B+ wire as the voltage output to the battery/fuse box, and three wires to an external regulator.
- An alternator from the post-2000-ish era likely has the fat B+ wire along with a multi-pin connector carrying signals from the ECU that perform the voltage regulation.
Now that both the over-voltage problem and the no-spark problem are solved, I hope I can give the Elan +2 the sudden-death-free pleasure drive both it and I richly deserve :^)
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I typically shy away from any articles about electrical issues, because of the half-dozen-or-so things that terrify me, solving (or even trying to understand) electrical issues hover near the top of the list. However, I have found that Rob often breaks things down into explanations that I can a) comprehend, and b) actually put to use in my own project work. That, combined with his usual style of writing, invited me to read this article and voila!, I am glad I did. I learned something today that over 60 years of shade tree wrenching had not taught me (or maybe that I was too dense to learn). Thanks, Hack! 👍
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I have tamed many a pesky charging system with a 10SI conversion (a.k.a one-wire) and a volt gauge. These can generally be done with little to no tampering with the original equipment or wiring. I would rather see my analog needle jump up to 14+ than see an icon on the dash go out, and ammeter gauges in my opinion are just about useless.
I prefer a voltmeter to an ammeter. Partly because both will tell you the overall health of the system (in different ways), but mostly because all of the current has to go through an ammeter, so that’s just another failure point.
My wife – before she was – saved my beloved AH BT-7 MkII by seeing an after-market Volt-meter peg, and then smoke. Thankfully she remembered where the battery cut-off switch was, and used it. Not the only reason I married her, but… I will try One More Time to post
Correction – After-market AMP meter
Good one, RJ. Topic is mostly “Greek” to me. My BN7 still has (I think) its original dynamo. For some, that’s Brit for generator. Ah, my cutoff switch in trunk was inoperable and bypassed, when I bought the car. And dumb me, I’ve never corrected it. Not smart, when the battery is behind the seats and under a deck with the spare (for appearances) wedged on top.
Perhaps in automotive use. In aviation,a loadmeter (ammeter with the gauge face calibrated in percent of the generator/alternator’s max rated capacity) only has two wires connected to either end of a shunt (calibrated bus bar). The voltage drop across this shunt can be displayed as amps or load. Our 300 amp generators used 22 gauge wires from the shunt to the gauge, saving weight and keeping high amperage out of the cockpit.
Agreed, but I still prefer to keep the charge warning light operable. Mainly because it’s been in every car I’ve owned/driven since the dinosaurs roamed the planet.
Nothing wrong with a backup lite along with the volt/charging meter, hell, maybe a buzzer too.
Nicely done, Rob. I too appreciate the clarity and thoroughness of the article. It breaks it down handily for someone as dense as I. 😀
“The result is that, when the engine is running, nothing is charging the battery, and the voltage soon drops from 12.6V to low enough that the car won’t start without a jump. Eventually the voltage drops so low that, while the car is running, it will sputter and die because there isn’t enough voltage to fire the coil.”
And between these two points, the engine dies when you hit the brakes.
Glad no batteries were fried in the process. You explained how it all works in a way that I better understood how it all works.
Great article. I have a 70 Roadrunner/Superbird clone, replaced the alternator with the lifetime replacement at a national discount parts place, voltage meter pegged over 15! Checked everything, went back to the box store, got a replacement, same issue, always charging. Went back again and exchanged for the several year warranty alternator, problem solved. The people behind the counter read the computer , up to us to take care of our vintage rides!!
One wire alternators are also “self exciting”, which means they need to have some revs before they kick in the charging. The wire that Rob calls D+ from the dash light is the exciter to kick in the charging, so those 2-wire style are charging as soon as they are turning.
Also, as a way to think of how the dash light works, the wire has +12v when ignition on. If the alternator is not charging the voltage flows and the light illuminates. But once the alternator is charging, it has +12v produced by the alternator, which makes it so no currrent flows on the exciter D+ wire, and therefore the dash light does no illuminate. This might not be 100%technically accurate, but it helps understand the dash light and why it goes on or off.
Most alternators, including 10SIs, are excited by the regulator current supplied to the rotor. You have to have battery voltage present, but the engine need not be running. I have seen alternators where you have to have some RPMs up before the thing will start charging, but I believe in most cases that is a defect. I 10SI-swapped my neighbor’s Rabbit because the original and a replacement alternator had this issue that would eventually terminate in a perpetual no charge condition. I did some research and found this was a common problem, and that’s why we went with the 10SI
A 10si will self excite with some RPM, this is an intended feature so that the alternator will still charge even if the light burns out.
Another great article, Rob. Thanx!
While wrenching, I saw a couple cases where the battery blew up. I saw a few more cases where all interior bulbs and some external blew out – both cases where charging was at 18-20v. Along with that, when the A32 series Nissan Maxima debuted, its charging system put out 15-15.5v normally. I still scratch my head over that.
About the ECM control. Nissan and Infiniti vehicles got their charge input from a current sensor that clamped around all negative wires/cables at/near the battery. This and other what I call ‘piggyback’ systems fine-tune/regulate the amount of charge above and beyond the regulator – in the name of fuel economy. FYI, an alternator can take a lot of horsepower to run at times, even more than a running AC compressor. Hence the piggyback system. There’s even DTCs (codes) for it which in turn can turn on the CEL (Check Engine Light).
Excellent article, Rob – thank you. As an owner of a ’67 (Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious) Elan, I can totally relate as “been there, own the ripped tee-shirt”.
Ahhhhh! Finally I understand some things that had made no sense to me. Thank you, Hackmeister!
I noticed that the lights seemed to flicker some at idle on my MB 560sl and checked voltage while idling and when given gas barely reached 12.5 volts. Went on MB forum and bought regulator (on the alternator) and replaced old one the brushes were worn down. After replacing 13.9 at idle and 14.5 when normal rpm driving.
I also replaced alternator on my 84 Mustang (my first new car and still have it) and that was barely adequate (I think 64amp) and replaced with modern style 130 amp. What a difference on that as well.
Thanks for your well written story on the charging system.
The voltage regulator went out on my 67 cougar recently, and it was actually pretty simple and easy to diagnose per the shop manual. One item that I like is the little USB and voltage meters that go in place of the lighter (or you make a new hole). It’s comforting to see the voltage anytime and know that the battery is not quietly being drained and you won’t make it home.
Back in the mid-70’s the alternator went out on it (same car!) about an hour from home at night, and it was a (foolish) challenge to make it home. It got so low that if I honked the horn the engine would die momentarily. The alternators were so bad that I bought back then (about twenty bucks) I would have them test the new one before I would take it. One time there were two bad ones before we got a good one. They were rebuilt with tiny diodes that would melt and rattle around inside. The original alternator had much larger diodes that apparently could handle a lot more mayhem.
Hinted toward in the article is a diagnostic clue that should be stated explicitly: if anything goes wrong with the alternator bulb or its socket the system will not charge no matter how many alternators you try. Checking that that bulb comes on before starting the motor assures it’s getting bootstrap to enable function.
Yes. I’ve written about that in other pieces.
Actually GM’s SI series of alternators will self energize once they get a little rpm and that is intended to make sure it charges when the light is burnt out.
Had a problem with an Acura slightly, intermittently dimming headlights and dashlights. Bought a Palumma combo LCD voltmeter/USB outlet off Amazon to plug into 12V port (cigarette lighter) to monitor voltage. Sure enough, voltage drop (13.8 down to around 12.5ish) with dimming. Alternator “tested” fine, but I suspected a bad diode or regulator. (210,000 miles on original alternator, so unsurprising.) New anywhere was NLA, so had it rebuilt by alternator specialist in PDX. New bearings, regulator, diode pack and works great now. That little LCD voltmeter is a great little charging system health monitor. NIce thing about the Acura is that cigarette lighter power is switched with ignition in run, so voltmeter can stay plugged in all the time. Same with daughter’s Toyota. Not so in a few other cars in the stable (Mopars and a Toyota) – hot all the time, so can’t leave it plugged in.
The mechanical voltage regulator in the 1973 BMW 2002 looks exactly like the one that was on my 1978 BMW R100S motorcycle. Then the regulator failed closed and I replaced with an electronic one. I wonder what other parts are common on 70s BMWs. IIRC VW Dasher points work in some BMW Airheads