10 November 2014

Generation Gap: Family Cruisers

In the final episode of season one of Generation Gap, Matt and Davin compare family cruisers. With its six-figure price tag and top speed of 208 mph, you’re unlikely to see Matt’s selection, a 2012 Ferrari FF, waiting to pick up the kids at school. Its part-time AWD system is powered by a direct-injection, 6.3-liter V-12 that blasts out 651 hp. Davin’s choice, a 1970 Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser, may seem unassuming at first, but its Edelbrock/Lingenfelter Edition E-Force supercharged LS3 makes just as much horsepower as the Ferrari. It also comes equipped with Ridetech Air-Ride suspension and Wilwood disc brakes.

Voting for this episode of “Generation Gap” has ended.

89 Reader Comments

  • 1
    j auckland November 11, 2014 at 13:57
    As much as I like that oldsmobile, it is just too loud to be a family cruiser.
  • 2
    Noah USA November 11, 2014 at 15:19
    I feel that this comparison is complete crap, you can't compare a tuned and boosted car to a completely stock one. A boosted civic will beat a Ferrari in a drag if you throw enough money into it.
  • 3
    Joe W western New York State November 11, 2014 at 17:10
    Give me the Ferrari for a weekend. But I would want want the Olds as a long term car.
  • 4
    Joey New York, new York November 11, 2014 at 19:38
    The Ferrari ff won by far
  • 5
    cobra Kai Ohio November 11, 2014 at 07:44
    Most interesting match up so far I think. Ferrari just isn't practical in any way as a family cruiser though but nice try. AMG wagon and now you have chance.
  • 6
    Catanya Devonshire II Manitoba Canada November 11, 2014 at 08:38
    If given either car for free, I would choose the Olds hands down. That Ferrari is FUGLY!!!
  • 7
    Scott Canada November 11, 2014 at 09:17
    Ferrari and family still do not go together. The FF is a freak, in a nice way, that may have some practicality, but family cruiser. So Olds takes it.
  • 8
    David Earnest United States November 12, 2014 at 13:33
    A trip to a Magnaflow dealer will solve the Olds noise issue. If you have the ol' Ball n chain, 2 to 4 kids, a dog and camping gear the Olds make waaaay more sense. The Ferrari FF is undeniably a magnificent car and completely impractical on any level. For a quarter million you could buy a nice class A RV.
  • 9
    george Oregon November 12, 2014 at 16:57
    Love the wagon, Pile in the family hook up a car trailer and tow the FF anywhere. Then you would get some looks.
  • 10
    Bugattipilot Canada November 12, 2014 at 18:56
  • 11
    Bugattipilot Canada November 12, 2014 at 18:59
    Olds is better because it sounds nicer it may be loud but it is nice. The Ferrari Looks weird in the back but sounds nice too.
  • 12
    Matt Canada November 12, 2014 at 19:57
    I think a Mercedes E63 AMG wagon would have made a better match up. The Ferrari isn't a true wagon. My vote goes to the Olds.
  • 13
    Joe Ala Freakin Bama November 12, 2014 at 20:31
    As much as I love the Vista, it's a freakin Ferrari. The Vista is a fantastic example, it's a great car. It sounds great. It looks great. It would be fantastic to own. But the Ferrari is the thing of dreams.
  • 14
    Jakob.K Germany November 12, 2014 at 10:51
    They should have taken a tuned Audi RS6 instead of the Ferrari. It would have been wagon vs wagon with equal Hp.
  • 15
    JOSEPH United States November 12, 2014 at 23:35
    Ferrari FF! Oldsmobile Cruiser is a living room.
  • 16
    Craig sutton grand rapids mi November 13, 2014 at 13:12
    the olds is one of the coolest wagons I ever saw and the Ferrari FF a family car be real you can do better then that you guys are great
  • 17
    Frank Wichita, Ks November 13, 2014 at 13:14
    The Vista hands down. Granted it's too loud, and what's up with no Remote Mirrors? All that money and you couldn't afford electric mirrors? If you line both of these cars up during your typical Car Show and the Vista will garner a ten fold of picture taking and admiring glances.
  • 18
    Glen Chancellor San Diego November 13, 2014 at 13:31
    That is the ugliest Ferrari ever. The Olds has style.
  • 19
    jc Soggy PNW November 13, 2014 at 13:33
    It's the Olds for me - though the exhaust note could be dialed down. Sounds like a high school kid's car in the parking lot after school. I have to disagree with Matt's observation that the FF is "obviously Italian" when discussing the appearance. Take the Ferrari badges off, and it looks like it could be a German or Japanese performance car.
  • 20
    joseph martin Duluth, MN November 13, 2014 at 13:45
    I live in AMERICA and drive AMERICAN cars, the Olds hands down!
  • 21
    Sebring AL Sunny Florida November 13, 2014 at 13:46
    Kobra Kai's comment is right on the money, Benz AMG wagon with the 6.3 V8 is a monster and actually very nice and aggressive looking.
  • 22
    George USA November 13, 2014 at 13:57
    Take the Ferrari, sell it, then buy a Porsche Cayenne Turbo and take the entire family on a two month vacation and still have $$$ left over.
  • 23
    Frank McPherson, KS November 13, 2014 at 14:33
    I wonder why it wasn't Olds vs. CTS V Wagon? The Ferrari is just absurd.
  • 24
    Karl Thoma WI November 13, 2014 at 14:49
    Dumbest comparison.....ever.
  • 25
    Sarki Metro NYC November 13, 2014 at 14:54
    Love the Ferrari with the sweet 12 cylinder but come on guys, that Vista Cruiser with an LS stuffed under hood is the bomb! I would love to have that baby on my driveway.
  • 26
    Steve Hamilton, ON November 13, 2014 at 15:05
    The Ferrari is cool, but for a family cruiser, it's gotta be the Vista Cruiser. Gotta tame that exhaust a bit, though. A set of Flowmaster 50's would do it.
  • 27
    Rich Palmer, Alaska November 13, 2014 at 15:11
    Let's compare insurance rates, then decide which one you want...
  • 28
    Jerry Burgoon United States November 13, 2014 at 15:17
    4 seats does not a family cruiser make. the Olds will seat at least 5 adults with room in the back for more with a third seat and gear . I choose olds hands down. Besides who needs 650hp in a family crusier?
  • 29
    Jerry Burgoon United States November 13, 2014 at 15:20
    4 seats does not a family cruiser make. the Olds will seat at least 5 adults with room in the back for more with a third seat and gear . I choose olds hands besides down. Besides who needs 650 hp in a family cruiser?
  • 30
    Michael Yount United States November 13, 2014 at 16:10
    Fond memories of the '65 Olds Vista Cruiser my dad ordered and picked up at the port in NJ when we returned from his tour of duty in Germany. Black over red interior; the backward facing 3rd seat; 400 cubic inch motor with 4 speed manual tranny. Many a small block muscle car got handed its ass on a tailgate.....
  • 31
    Bill Texas City, TX November 13, 2014 at 16:11
    With the Olds you can take the little league to the ball field
  • 32
    Mark in Atl Atlantat, GA November 13, 2014 at 16:15
    The Olds is a cool crusier, but come on, how do you compete with an FF? Seriously!
  • 33
    Ray Brett Sacramento November 13, 2014 at 16:39
    You can't put a Ferrari in the category of "family car". There is no such thing. Enzo Ferrari would be insulted if you called any of his cars an American Family Car. With that said there is no fair comparison between these two fine automobiles. Ferrari gets my nod for the best sports car. My family would rather be seen in a Ferrari than an old station wagon. Sorry guys.
  • 34
    Lisa North Mississippi November 13, 2014 at 17:33
    I always enjoy watching the comparison videos, but these cars should not have even been compared. They are not in the same class. I don't care what Ferrari said about the car. It is not a family car. It's a Ferrari for goodness sake! But I did enjoy the video and both the cars. But Oldsmobile has my vote on family car. Ferrari has its place. It's just not on a family vacation!
  • 35
    John Spencerport, NY November 13, 2014 at 17:42
    The Vista Cruiser wins easily handsdown.
  • 36
    Bob Arper Bremerton, WA November 13, 2014 at 18:07
    I am sure that neither runs on regular gas and I agree that the Olds is a little too much exhaust noise for my taste but it is clearly more of a "Family Cruiser" than the Ferrari. Honestly, I couldn't afford either one as shown here but I'm sure either would be a kick to drive.
  • 37
    Jim Cowen United States November 13, 2014 at 18:30
    I would have compared CTS Sportwagon V to the Vista instead of an FF
  • 38
    Cliff Mapes Midland, MI November 13, 2014 at 19:01
    Oldsmobile all the way!! I have three Oldsmobile's of my own. I wouldn't trade a classic for anything else.
  • 39
    TEE United States November 13, 2014 at 20:10
    Cruiser: perhaps neither fit the traditional but I'd think the Olds is closer than a Ferrari straining every inch to be freed from an ordinary American road.
  • 40
    Dave Tallahassee November 13, 2014 at 20:11
    Love the Olds! A wonderful, fun land yacht! Sounds great by the way.
  • 41
    Haig Haleblian somewhere northwest of the windy November 13, 2014 at 20:38
    Vista Cruiser hands down. I'd love to own that beast. Collectability of a 4 seat Ferrari is an oximoron. If I owned the Olds, I'd ditch the windshield dressing.
  • 42
    Carson unknown November 13, 2014 at 20:51
    The Olds is WAY too be a family cruiser, cuz if ya got kids in the back, ya they wanna hear that noise, but it will freackin blow there ear drums out! Meanwhile the Ferrari FF is a quiet family crusier when u dont put your foot down for more luckery, and performance. So im taking this time, to vote for the Ferrari.
  • 43
    Marvin Utah November 13, 2014 at 22:22
    We had a '64 Vista Cruiser and one time we took 14 people to a $2.00 a car load drive-in. Loved that car.
  • 44
    Milan Texas November 13, 2014 at 22:34
    Can't decide so I didn't vote this time
  • 45
    Ron United States November 13, 2014 at 12:18
    The category was "family cruiser." Four seats with two unusable for anyone with legs is NOT a family cruiser! It needs to have room for at least five and gear for a family outing and the Ferrari does not. I'd tone down the exhaust and take the Olds on a road trip any day.
  • 46
    Brian Canada November 13, 2014 at 12:22
    I have a 1971 Vista Cruiser, it is the an awesome family cruiser. With duals and loud exhaust, how can exhaust be too loud?
  • 47
    Duane mrazek Pittsburgh Pa. November 13, 2014 at 12:56
    Olds all the way plus it's american made (the best)
  • 48
    Ray Adams South Carolina November 13, 2014 at 12:56
    I had a Vista Cruiser and three boys and it was great. Head to the beach, throw the goodies in the back, same with fishing. It as a great family car, drove nice, could carry anything with room to spare. My idea of a family car.
  • 49
    A. John Harvey Long Valley, NJ November 14, 2014 at 13:22
    Olds does it for me! Way too cool...great tailgating car!
  • 50
    Tom Pittsburgh, PA November 14, 2014 at 13:50
    Oldsmobile all the way. I have three kids and a wife. I would actually WANT to own that Olds. I have no desire whatsoever to own that Ferrari.
  • 51
    Larry India November 14, 2014 at 06:34
    Growing up with 7 brothers and 4 sisters, and having to suffer through the numerous station wagons in Michigan, it's the Ferrari...hands down
  • 52
    bill mcmorrow new york November 14, 2014 at 08:05
    money aside I would take the olds any day of the week. can't stand the idea of owning a car that I can not service myself.
  • 53
    Mel Major Pa November 14, 2014 at 08:23
    Neither would be a average family cruiser due to the cost. They are both nice toys for the wealthy.
  • 54
    Mike Morris Colorado November 14, 2014 at 20:32
    They are both cool cars but, the Vista is just cooler! More room for the kids or friends, love the sound and it looks really sweet! A modern automatic wouldhave probably been a better choice though.
  • 55
    66' 912 Huntsville, AL November 14, 2014 at 09:21
    Olds all the way. I can't imagine my kid in muddy soccer gear getting in my Ferrari...of course I can't imagine owning an Ferrari either. My Porsche buddies would shun me...
  • 56
    Rick Boone,N.C. November 14, 2014 at 21:31
    Nothing like raw horsepower and classic muscle.
  • 57
    Tom Columbus, OH November 14, 2014 at 10:17
    The Vista-Cruiser for sure. We had a '72 V-C back in the day. The kids loved it - the '70s version of a minivan, with its forward-facing "way back" third seat. I'd love to have a restored one with a modern drive train.
  • 58
    David Herald Dallas, TX November 15, 2014 at 13:13
    I Couldn't Raise 5 Children W/ F............! That 70's Show Vehicle Worked So Well W / Son's Playing Sports ! Comfortable, Spacious and Powerful ! What Great Memories ...
  • 59
    Thomas Alexandria, LA November 15, 2014 at 15:41
    The Oldsmobile pulling a nice Airstream would be a great combo!
  • 60
    Liam O'Boyle Tasmania, AUS November 15, 2014 at 04:39
    Olds hands down, you can compare a boosted wagon to a stock supercar, because sometime in their life they may have an engine swap or be put up to 1000+HP i wouldnt turn down a Ferrari but id be more excited with the olds
  • 61
    Liam O'Boyle Tasmania, AUS November 15, 2014 at 04:40
    Olds hands down, you can compare a boosted wagon to a stock supercar, because sometime in their life they may have an engine swap or be put up to 1000+HP i wouldnt turn down a Ferrari but id be more excited with the olds
  • 62
    Heinrich Redekop Alberta Canada November 15, 2014 at 17:45
    No one would look twice at the Olds if they were parked side by side, also from a driving point a 44 year old car could never compete with a modern Ferrari, no matter how much money you throw at it. Finally, I wouldn't want to see that Olds parked in my garage!
  • 63
    JD NC November 15, 2014 at 17:58
    Ease of ownership is the only category you didn't just don't the points, and your concern was monetary. I think it's worth mentioning that the FF comes with 7 years of complimentary maintenance. More expensive to maintain long term? Of course, but not a penny on service for 7 years so I think you should have split those points too. That said, I'll take the Vista and throw some mufflers on it.
  • 64
    Chris London Ontario November 15, 2014 at 07:53
    Olds hand down. I saw a BUICK version from California of the Vista in London this summer it was mint a real winner with all the opps.
  • 65
    Al Leavenworth, KS November 15, 2014 at 11:13
    I love the looks of the Ferrari and wanted to select it, but a family cruiser? For a family cruiser I'd have to go with the Olds. I remember when my parents bought a 1968 Camaro. I loved that car but was it really the best "family" car? Probably not.
  • 66
    ANDY MELDERIS Canada November 16, 2014 at 06:43
    The Olds wins handsdown. The category is family cruiser, right? Maybe should have used a family of 4 (two teenage boys with hockey gear going to practice) for the test!
  • 67
    SSIKNSS Huntington Beach, CA November 16, 2014 at 19:11
    There is one category missing for a family cruiser - road trip. After 200 miles in the Vista, the family would probably be on the verge of treason and you would be deaf and not hear them. After 200 miles in the FF, the kids would take the private jet and meet you at the destination.
  • 68
    Dann BC Canada November 16, 2014 at 10:41
    if they where in stock form it would be the Ferrari easily but with those mods the vista cruiser seems like a car a would prefer to drive... i like loud! Olds for the win even though i think it should be dq'd because a vista cruiser like that was never available to be purchased
  • 69
    sam clinton township MI November 16, 2014 at 11:08
    Olds wagon is Very Nice, all you wanted in a wagon, at least me , big engine and a 4 speed vs a Ferrari too much money tied up there, but it is nice.
  • 70
    MDRIVING Canada November 17, 2014 at 13:36
    The price difference should have motivated a different choice but if one could consider the FF without the cost in the equasion, there would be absolutely no chance anyone would pick that old beast after jumping in the FF and driving it to the corner store and back as it would absolutely blow your mind to little pieces with the ammount of performance performance and comfort it is capable of. The FF would literally walk away from that old beast and would disapear in the corners while being so much sweeter to simple be inside. With all the dreamy leather and soronious sound of that V12 giving eargasm after eargasm of audible pleasure... of course its no wonder, given the price esspecially when you realize that the price actually feels right after spending any length of time driving the FF or any modern Ferrari for that matter.
  • 71
    Robert Wich United States November 17, 2014 at 19:41
    Olds dudes. that smiling front grill and clashing curves makes the Ferrari even uglier than the old Porsche Cayenne. it makes a good noise and is quiet enough to live with, but that Olds is a muscle wagon, practical, reliable, and loud. that noise is a plus no matter how far you drive. you can't fight that Olds.
  • 72
    dominique canada November 17, 2014 at 20:42
    The 442 olds by far....;-)))
  • 73
    Bil S St. Albert AB. November 18, 2014 at 02:36
    Love the Olds! Change the exhaust and circus wheels out and it'd be perfect...There's a special feel in an Oldsmobile!
  • 74
    Jessica Bluestein United States November 18, 2014 at 23:16
    My father's a Vista Cruiser aficionado and terrorized my middle school years (early 2000s) by insisting on picking me up from school in the totally un-hip cruiser. Thanks to Davin, 15 years later, I now realize that my father has always been on the cutting edge.
  • 75
    Jerry Auckland November 19, 2014 at 04:26
    The olds is better by far! The ferrari looks like a nissan and as always they're way overpriced italian rubbish!
  • 76
    Johnny Germany November 19, 2014 at 05:24
    Even for me as a European, I'd go for the much bigger Olds. But when it comes to similarity, I guess a CTS-V, an Audi RS6 or an imported Holden Commodore V8 Wagon would've been the better choice. Here, it's full-size against sports car... kind of different where they come from, isn't it? Still fun to watch :D
  • 77
    Kristian Finland November 19, 2014 at 11:09
    Oldsmobile, much cooler than the Ferrari.
  • 78
    johno Australia November 19, 2014 at 00:09
    Olds Hands down wins it key words Family Cruiser where do you take your family without camping gear fishing gear beach gear even grocery shopping or a trip to the hardware store
  • 79
    TimC SE TN November 20, 2014 at 22:03
    More money than brain buys the Ferrari and anyone whos got a family & into classics builds and/or buys the Olds. Anybody can own a late model vehicle if they can afford the payments..........but you can't walk down to the local car lot & buy a prestine Olds Vista Cruiser.
  • 80
    Nicholas C. United States December 20, 2014 at 17:19
    I'm actually pretty disappointed here, this would have been the prefect episode for the either a Magnum RT/SRT8 or a CTS-V Wagon V. They are after all basically the same concept, 4 door wagon with a big fug' off V8 in them. Hell even something like a Chevy HHR SS would have been a more comparable opponent. Anyone that would try and say the Ferrari is a "Family Cruiser" is delusional, it's a fast car no doubt and it looks good but you are not loading up the family to go to the mall or on vacation in it. 
  • 81
    JPG Canada December 29, 2014 at 15:32
    I personally like both vehicles and they are both winners and failures. The Ferrari, although beautiful in my eyes, is not an affordable vehicle by middle-class standards. The Wagon is affordable but way too loud to be a family cruiser. Imagine starting this beauty up every morning..."the burbs" comes to mind. The Ferrari is not really a wagon. Sure, you can sit four but so can a Veloster Turbo. The wagon has 650 HP but it will never match the prowess of the Ferrari. A better match would've been the Vista Cruiser against an E63 MB Wagon. more closely approximated weights, power and carrying capacity. Having said all the BS I said above, as much as I love the FF, I'm impartial to older, hot-rodded vehicles so, my vote goes to the Vista Cruiser.
  • 82
    steve n.h. January 23, 2016 at 17:26
    vista cruiser all the way. id rather have a stock vista, brown with wood paneling than that fugly Ferrari
  • 83
    John Puerto Rico February 25, 2016 at 07:44
  • 84
    Sleepy Wash dc May 12, 2016 at 20:02
    I own a 71vista One day I'm goin swap a LS if I don't sale it Love The vista
  • 85
    robert Indianapolis, IN July 3, 2016 at 23:45
    the Ferrari
  • 86
    Scott Bennett Idaho December 4, 2016 at 20:43
    LS's can never be too loud LOL
  • 87
    The Man of Steel United States March 8, 2017 at 16:38
    It's the wagon. Hands down, no questions, no hesitation.
  • 88
    Carl Canada March 30, 2017 at 15:34
    Not wanting to sound biased but... Being an early retired fella, I'm am and always have been a major Gear Head. The Olds Vista Cruiser has my heart lusting.
  • 89
    Daniel Watkins (danwat1234) Washington April 30, 2017 at 16:40
    Vista Cruiser. Red Forman never had one like that! But really, I'd rather have a Tesla Model S or X P100D. Those are insane and very efficient in comparison to gas vehicles. And very practical with tons of cargo space and they can tow.

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