28 July 2014

Generation Gap: 4x4s

In the latest episode of Generation Gap, Matt and Davin look at two vehicles that can go the distance - a 1952 Willys M38 Jeep and a 1976 Toyota Land Cruiser FJ40. Which one gets your vote? Watch as the guys argue for their chosen 4x4, then tell us what you think.

Voting for this episode of “Generation Gap” has ended.

89 Reader Comments

  • 1
    Shazs317 Virginia July 29, 2014 at 17:06
    I love the jeep but I love the Toyota even more
  • 2
    Brian Chilliwack BC July 29, 2014 at 20:41
    I like both vehicles, I would have the Jeep as a true 4x4 bush going more offroad than on road type vehicle, but I would rather have the Toyota as a daily driver/ weekend wheeler.
  • 3
    Joe W Jupiter July 29, 2014 at 09:26
    Not a very good episode. 2 trucks designed for off road use. And you were unable to get them off pavement. The Older host needs to be educated on the FJ 40's capability and world history. Nice Jeep also. But it was also designed to get dirty too. Next episode. Boats that don't get "Wet".
  • 4
    Matt Dallas July 29, 2014 at 11:17
    It was a hard choice to make.
  • 5
    James S. Texas July 29, 2014 at 12:49
    I'm going to have to go with the jeep. I might be a little biased but jeep are one of the most popular 4x4s out there, and I have one.
  • 6
    Bill Bauder Texas July 30, 2014 at 13:04
    When I was the duty jeep driver for my ship during WW2 we blew the hell out of any thing made in Japan.
  • 7
    Ed Maryland July 30, 2014 at 13:05
    The Jeep. It's American made. It was invented at a time when we were working hard to k the guys making the Toyota. Talk about tough competition.
  • 8
    Howard Holt Seattle Wa. July 30, 2014 at 13:17
    I like the Jeep The Toyotas rust to easy all the ones I see are rusted. I have a 1946 CJ2A and have had it sence 1982 and it hase no rust and it is so easy to work on all you need is a 1/2 and a 9/16 wrench to do about 90% of the work. Between both my kids it was used for 8 years though school as there major transportation.
  • 9
    Erik J Dana Point Ca, July 30, 2014 at 13:39
    I think they are both exelent 4x4's although similar In appearence , they really are quite different. I've had experience driving both over the years and figure the debate will go on for years. Right now I drive a Chevy silverado 4x4 reg. cab 2dr truck and a '49 GMC 1 ton pickup that's all original .
  • 10
    Tim Illinois July 30, 2014 at 14:23
    I love all 4x4's, especially Jeeps. Besides, Jeep wrote the book on 4 wheel drive (should be a slogan. Oh yea, it was). I remember hooking a buddies Land Cruiser to my CJ-5 to see who could out pull who. We both just sat and dug holes in the dirt.
  • 11
    Ryan Georgia July 30, 2014 at 14:26
    The old Willys are really neat. However, the durability of Toyota cannot be beat. The amount of low end torque the L6 made enable the FJs to climb over almost anything. FJ40 all the way.
  • 12
    Ken Cape Cod, MA July 30, 2014 at 14:33
    Both legends. The Toyota was the first vehicle to climb up Mt Fuji in 1951! Please, no more comments that it's not capable or doesn't have the same ability. A nice example of an old FJ is way more desirable and valuable than a comparable Jeep. No disrespect, just sayin, my opinion. This is a collectors venue, right? Happy 4wheelin!
  • 13
    Jim Texas July 30, 2014 at 14:41
    I own a 79 FJ. I'd not trade it for another vehicle. And it is almost maintenance free. I like older Jeeps too but I think I'm turning less wrenches than most older Jeep owners. And I'd bet a similarly lifted short wheelbase Jeep could do no more or less than my FJ.
  • 14
    Jim Texas July 30, 2014 at 14:42
    I own a 79 FJ. I'd not trade it for another vehicle. And it is almost maintenance free. I like older Jeeps too but I think I'm turning less wrenches than most older Jeep owners. And I'd bet a similarly lifted short wheelbase Jeep could do no more or less than my FJ.
  • 15
    Marie MI July 30, 2014 at 14:58
    I would rather have a 1966-1977 Ford Bronco......
  • 16
    Max Queensland AUSTRALIA July 30, 2014 at 15:17
    JEEP a fun workhorse. I own a1943 FORD JEEP. I believe to be ex USN...the original manual has notation USS FULTON
  • 17
    Nelson Miami July 30, 2014 at 15:18
    Toyota any day!!!
  • 18
    Richard Poteracki Mt. Prospect, Illinois July 30, 2014 at 15:21
    Both vehicles are great, but since I own a 1968 M715 Kaiser Jeep 5/4 ton truck, (that actually returned home from Vietnam in 1973) and being a Vietnam Veteran, my choice was very easy....the Jeep is my choice.
  • 19
    Daniel A. So Cal July 30, 2014 at 15:28
    Wow, that was an uninformed discussion and horribly one sided from the guy arguing for the military jeep. The land cruiser is used around the world and here and that isn't a coincidence. They ROCK! And they are good looking and they are far more functional in a variety of settings. The LC straight six has great low end torque and the short body climbs most anything without high centering. And, the collectible values tell us it's ALL true. And, they run, and run and run!
  • 20
    Max Queensland AUSTRALIA July 30, 2014 at 15:29
    JEEP a fun workhorse. I own a1943 FORD JEEP. I believe to be ex USN...the original manual has notation USS FULTON
  • 21
    djw tx July 30, 2014 at 15:44
    Might have thrown a Pinzgauer in the mix just for fun.
  • 22
    76-Bronco United States July 30, 2014 at 15:59
    Too bad their wasn't an early Bronco to choose from :)
  • 23
    scott coombes ontario ,canada July 30, 2014 at 16:06
    Hi, I have both of them. I've had the fj-40 for 25 yrs and the jeep for 3 yrs. The M-38 will put just about anything to shame in the mud and climb hills you can't walk up but with only 60 HP lacks the power to pull heavy loads at highway speeds, and in fact will do 60 mph (bearly) untill a hill or a head wind. The fj-40 is much better all around with 120HP and nice things like heat etc. For off road the jeep wins hands down. And yes, my jeep drives all year through anything. Pulled 8 guys out of the ditch last year, 4 more out of the mud and one disabled 40 transport truck off the road. Love that low range and torque. (the same 110 ft lbs as the fj40). Either one if you can get one is fantastic! I think I will go for a drive ...but which one? Have a great day.
  • 24
    Thomas Hawken Darien, Ilinios July 30, 2014 at 16:41
    Since I own several Military Vvehicles 1948 willirs Jeep being 1 of them and have a 1987 Toyota 4 runner. I prefer the Jeep. Not to say the Toyota doe not perform. Just not as good as the Jeep.
  • 25
    Dan Davies Mapleton, Utah July 30, 2014 at 17:37
    I own a restored M38A1 jeep and love it. I enter it in car shows & parades every year and win a lot of trophies. I wish I could show a picture of it. I spent 43 yrs in the military (Army) and this is the vehicle I will always remember. At car shows I have more people ask questions about my jeep than my 63 Ford Falcon. Thanks Dan
  • 26
    garrett Alabama July 30, 2014 at 18:02
    The army jeep is the worst won of the 2
  • 27
    Mike Marsh Brandon, MS July 30, 2014 at 18:07
    The Jeep in the the league with the Higgins Boat and the P51, they had a major role in winning the war! The "Rice Burner" came along after we rebuilt Japan, no contest!
  • 28
    Linda WA July 30, 2014 at 18:13
    Having owned and raced jeeps of 1942 and 1946 vintage, have to go with jeep. I still drive one but it's a Grand Cherokee and the only jeep thing about it is the 4 letters J E E P!
  • 29
    Mang North Tahoe July 30, 2014 at 18:20
    These jeeps are IT! Fold down the windshield, and it's like a four wheel motorcycle/dirt bike ride, especially in the dirt, where it counts. Every house in the burbs ought to have one for FUN. Way high on the 'cool meter' too. Civilian CJ2A with a period Buick V6 for the win.
  • 30
    K. B. Longview, WA July 30, 2014 at 18:59
    I have to go with the Jeep. I used to own a '52 Willys. It was converted to 12 volt and no longer had water proofing but it would go anywhere. The thing I know for sure is that I never got towed home but I did tow a lot of the big, mean rigs that couldn't make it.
  • 31
    bud dealey wilmington, NC July 30, 2014 at 19:08
    I bought my 1972 FJ40 rag top new with all three options . It had a he k of a lot of fun on the Beaches of Long Island, then the mountains of Virginia, and has a full body off restoration---except the engine --- it only has 28,000 miles.New both in and out. Now selling 910-200-0919.
  • 32
    Jack Ca July 30, 2014 at 19:42
    What came first, the Toyota is a copy and not what the Jeep is. No comparison.
  • 33
    Larry Albany, NY July 30, 2014 at 08:51
    When I was in the Army (1962 - 1964), I had a Jeep just like the one here. One of my jobs was as a spotter during artillery practice at Fort Sill, OK. It required that I drive my Jeep to the top of a hill that was totally made of rocks; some very big. I marveled at the Jeep's ability to grunt up, at a snail's pace, that huge mound of rocks. Something I doubt VERY much the Toyota could do.
  • 34
    Dan Liska CA> July 30, 2014 at 21:22
    Loved both ! How about some Bronco's.
  • 35
    Bill Hunstock Minneapolis, MN July 30, 2014 at 09:27
    I'm a Jeep guy all the way. I owned a 1948 CJ 2, and currently have a 1957 Jeep Wagon. Off road my Jeep ran circles around my friends Toyota!
  • 36
    Gary Santa Rosa July 30, 2014 at 22:00
    Like comparing a Model A Ford to a 1940 LaSalle. Technology plays a huge role. If both were offered to the military in 1952, the military would have chosen the M38 for its simplicity even though the Toyota is a better off road vehicle.
  • 37
    Larry United States July 30, 2014 at 10:09
    I voted for the Jeep having driven several in the early 60's, they were incredible. Most of the driving in Army was off road. However, if I were buying today, I would probably buy the 20 year later model Toyota
  • 38
    Scott Benzie County, MI July 30, 2014 at 10:10
    I may be biased...I have an early 1946 CJ-2A...it will go almost anywhere you can point it...an when things get boring you can always hook something to the draw bar and PTO for fun. Simply one of the best engineered vehicles of its time...
  • 39
    Jim CT. USA July 30, 2014 at 10:13
    Both are the choices of true 4x4 lovers. I've owned 2 FJ 40s and still find it hard to choose between these iconic vehicles. The off road capability of either, not presented here, is really the only way to make an informed choice. While I believe the Toyota would be more expensive to restore fully, the Jeep remains an American icon. In the long run I favor the FJ as I know it's full potential on and off road.
  • 40
    Shane Four Oaks, NC July 30, 2014 at 10:29
    The Jeep literally blazed the trail. The Toyota is just an overweight copycat.
  • 41
    Bruce Calgary Alberta July 30, 2014 at 10:35
    Easy choice, I have a 51 Willy's - too bad they didn't get off road, the Willy's would have won by a landslide.
  • 42
    Michael Noblesville,IN. July 30, 2014 at 10:36
    Jeep hands down!! Don't like toyota now or ever! 100% AMERICAN always!! Jeep wins for off road capability, history, reliability, and it won WW2 for us as well as pulling us through Korea and Vietnam!! Jeep wins!
  • 43
    Clff Charlevoix, Michigan July 30, 2014 at 10:37
    I own the M-38 and use it just for fun trips around an island in Canada. Thirty miles long and about 20 wide. It is a summer only vehicle with no heater!
  • 44
    Mike DeVito Sycamore, Illinois July 30, 2014 at 10:43
    They are both cool, no doubt but the Jeep is the "coolest"
  • 45
    Mike DeVito Sycamore, Illinois July 30, 2014 at 10:45
    They are both cool, no doubt but the Jeep is the "coolest"
  • 46
    Bob NC July 30, 2014 at 10:49
    Having driven military jeeps in the service and currently owning 2 jeeps, I prefer the military jeep especially one from 1952. I've driven the Toyota before and they are capable, but they are just a "pretend" jeep. Only a jeep can be a jeep.
  • 47
    Bob NC July 30, 2014 at 10:59
    Having driven military jeeps in the service and currently owning 2 jeeps, I prefer the military jeep especially one from 1952. I've driven the Toyota before and they are capable, but they are just a "pretend" jeep. Only a jeep can be a jeep.
  • 48
    Bret United States July 30, 2014 at 11:00
    Jeep all the way. Where do you think they got the idea for the FJ?
  • 49
    kurt thomson United States July 30, 2014 at 11:22
    I have had many military jeeps, willys, m-38,m151, and they are all so slow on the highway. Once you get there, nothing can beat them! I also have some unimogs, they are the ultimate! Have a military hummer, junk! the landcruser does it all and has the Japanese quality that has made toyota famous. landcruser is just a slight step ahead!
  • 50
    Jonathan Alabama July 30, 2014 at 11:29
    I was once the owner of a 52 M38, it was a documented Alabama Jeep from Maxwell AF Base in Montgomery Alabama. It was probably 50% restored when a Doctor called me inquiring to purchase it. I opened my mouth - he wrote a check and the rest is history. I knew he could give it the life it deserved; it spent time in the Museum in Huntsville actually after he finished it. All has ended well though - I am rebuilding my 77 Bronco with the Army Jeep Funds....and I currently have my Dads 1960 M38A1 that was assembled in the Netherlands for Kaiser....Good memories.
  • 51
    Les Warner Eugene,Or July 30, 2014 at 23:34
    There again it depends on one's age,nearing 80 I would take the jeep any day.
  • 52
    CelicaJ California July 30, 2014 at 23:40
    Jeep=Football...Land Cruiser=Soccer.... All I can say is the rest of the world can care less about Football.
  • 53
    Neil Wilmington July 30, 2014 at 11:42
    The TLC gets my vote. Great looks and a great history. The 2F engine puts out more horses and it can climb a 45 degree set of stairs. Seats 7 with the front bench seat as well.
  • 54
    Eric Folsom July 30, 2014 at 11:56
    Completely different class of collectible, despite them both being utility 4wd. FJ all the way. How can you argue the hard top?
  • 55
    Larry Tampa FlI was July 30, 2014 at 11:57
    I was in Korea 1952-53. The Korean 'conflict' was fought with WWII vehicles salvaged from the south Pacific islands and rebuilt in Japan. Latter part of the 'conflict' these vehicles were replaced with the 'M' series vehicles and then turned over to the R.O.K. Army. Our 'Shop' Jeep was the last to go.
  • 56
    My Info holland mi July 30, 2014 at 12:24
    the Jeep Willys of course. And my 1947 Willy enjoys being off road as much as being on the road.
  • 57
    kevin west United States July 30, 2014 at 12:34
    I had a very original very good condition Toyota FJ 60, last year of carburetor and round head lights, I now have a modified 1956 M38A1 with Ford 289, 538 gears, 4 speed with OD running 37" tires, but still sporting ax and shovel.
  • 58
    Zach Carhide United States July 30, 2014 at 12:35
    I would take a scout over the jeep or Toyota any day!!!
  • 59
    George Flynn Kent, CT. July 30, 2014 at 12:41
    Although my serious "off roading" days are over (20 years of mud,bogs,rocks...through countless rivers, etc.) ....my vehicle of choice is the FJ40! For the past 34 years I've owned cruisers...for the past 20 years a 1976 FJ-40 (stock). Granted, the M38 is a great vehicle -no doubt. ....is the FJ as capable (off road) as the Willies? Silly question...but of course. I've done it... The pre-1983 FJ-40 is one of the most capable off road vehicles ever made...bar none....in my opinion. If I felt something else was better...I'd own it. Maybe.
  • 60
    Tony Azcona Indiana July 30, 2014 at 12:47
    I'm surprised that the comparison didn't include either the Land Rover or an Austin Gipsy. Either are better than the Toyota and the wheels of both the Jeep, Land Rover and Austin interchange. Plus no metric crap either.
  • 61
    Larry S. Pearland, TX July 31, 2014 at 13:11
    Though I've always liked (and wanted) an FJ40, I have to go with the '52 M38 Willys Jeep as I own one (along with a '53 CJ3B and an '81 CJ7 presently) and have been a jeep collector since the mid 60's - over three dozen to date, including MB's, 2A's, CJ5's, a 3A and a CJ6. The FJ would be tops for comfort, handling and cold/wet weather, but the open jeeps are tops all around in my book!
  • 62
    keoni Washington DC July 31, 2014 at 01:31
    I personally love the Toyota myself for the area I live in
  • 63
    Glenn Mast United States July 31, 2014 at 13:54
    Both are cool, and influenced the 4x4 world. However, my vote hands down is the Jeep. Most important reason, it was one of the key reasons we won the war. Chesty Puller never drove a Land Cruiser.
  • 64
    Andrea N. Lancaster, NY July 31, 2014 at 19:53
    I'm a big supporter of our military and the M38 represents our proud history and toughness. Go USA
  • 65
    Ken Clark Florida July 31, 2014 at 08:14
    The M38's I knew in the early 60,s had more curvy fenders are you sure this is the right designation?
  • 66
    Tom C. Lancaster, PA July 31, 2014 at 08:40
    Jeep for me. The Toyota is nice but it always seemed like a CJ knockoff.
  • 67
    Darren Australia July 31, 2014 at 20:44
    The Toyota for me, if you have to get to the place you are going to off road in the car you are going to drive there. Had my BJ 40 29 years 370000 kms. Gibb river road, Cape york, beadell highway? and the Birdsville track. Stock size tyres,stock style suspension, never really had any access problems. Also AC and windows to keep the elements out. Cheap and as easy to fix imho but very reliabale. As a pure and only a 4X4 very close to a M Jeep, but a better one is a little Suzuki?
  • 68
    dennis palm harbor,fl. August 1, 2014 at 17:14
    most of the people I knew that owned that type of Toyota put small block chevy v8's in them.
  • 69
    dakota bel air, maryland August 1, 2014 at 17:34
    toyota, just because i drive a 88 4runner. which would blow any jeep or 4x4 out of the water. seriously these things get 22-25 mpg and can scale any hill or mud pit. but the wwII jeeps are pretty cool, i mean i like what road kill did with the jeeprod.
  • 70
    paul kegley south of I10 August 1, 2014 at 17:48
    disappointed that who ever restored the FJ 40 doesn`t have enough knowledge to put the bezel on the correct way. sad LOL.
  • 71
    Rusty Wheeling, WV August 2, 2014 at 18:50
    I think you should have compaired a more comperable in age Jeep, such as a 1976 CJ-7. Possibly with the 304 V-8. Then the decission would have been much more obvious for most who weren't sure at first. I have a 1953 M38A1 which is what the CJ-5 was created from in 1955. The M38 was based off of the civilian CJ-3A and then modified for the Military. It was the only Jeep that went from civilian to military. It was only made for 4 years, 1949 to 1952.
  • 72
    mejaneher40 eastern nc August 2, 2014 at 11:09
    I couldn't hear what they were saying over the 40s upside down bezel. How do you NOT take them off road?!
  • 73
    Mr. Mike N.E. Md. August 6, 2014 at 13:15
    No brainer, own a 1968 FJ40 "The Beast".
  • 74
    kyle ft myers florida August 8, 2014 at 12:09
    I've grown up racing jeeps in florida I own a race jeep that runs a f head il4 in it I literally goin to the tattoo parlor next week to have the willys logo permanently stamped on my arm I am a jeep fanatic tho correction sorry but the jeep you showcased if it is a 52 there is no way it could be a Ford they wer only licensed during ww2 to produce them production of Ford jeeps stopped in 46 but and because of that restored ford jeeps can go for as much as 80 grand but either way awesome show guys
  • 75
    kyle ft myers florida August 8, 2014 at 12:14
    I've grown up racing jeeps in florida I own a race jeep that runs a f head il4 in it I literally goin to the tattoo parlor next week to have the willys logo permanently stamped on my arm I am a jeep fanatic tho correction sorry but the jeep you showcased if it is a 52 there is no way it could be a Ford they wer only licensed during ww2 to produce them production of Ford jeeps stopped in 46 but and because of that restored ford jeeps can go for as much as 80 grand but either way awesome show guys
  • 76
    Greg Canada August 9, 2014 at 10:20
    I have 2 FJ40s and they rock! The Jeep is cool for sure, just not for everyday use. I like mine because it's a reliable and built to be beat.
  • 77
    jr Carlisle PA August 12, 2014 at 09:08
    Comparing the Jeep with its heritage and American class to a Jap jeep is tacky! Incidentally, the civilian equal to the M38 was a CJ3A and one of them was my first vehicle. I would have NEVER considered a Japanese "jeep."
  • 78
    Ramos Alabama September 27, 2014 at 06:58
    Fj40 is the coolest car ever I've always wanted one.
  • 79
    cliff patton morristown. TN December 31, 2014 at 22:32
    FJ40 hands down, i have owned a 72 FJ for 30 year and have raced jeeps & All other brands of 4x4's off road, i won every race for 2 years and have The hardware to prove it. Nothing beats a FJ off road.
  • 80
    Ghers Quito, Ecuador May 12, 2015 at 22:56
    I owned a Jeep Willys M38 and today I own a Toyota Land Cruiser II. Both work good offroad. Jeep is history and won many years ago, but Toyota is comfortable. My vote is for Toyota.
  • 81
    ArmyCopTom USA Mobile, Alabama May 20, 2015 at 11:14
    I really like them both but the Jeep a bit more due to my Father being a WWII veteran, oldest brother a Korean Veteran & my being a Combat MP Veteran OIF & the Jeep's historical background. Good video, Thanks for sharing.
  • 82
    Saleem Pakistan,Balochistan,Quetta December 7, 2015 at 12:10
    both of jeeps are good.But iam with FJ40 because i l like fj40 very much
  • 83
    Kashif Lahore, Pakistan February 15, 2016 at 08:05
    I have both; a 1979 CJ5 and a 1975 FJ40. I am split evenly on both. Both have their pros and cons but both are amazing field vehicles!!
  • 84
    KWB Longview, WA February 19, 2016 at 16:38
    I owned a 1952 M38 and drove it for many years. I never felt the need to put a big engine in it. I just stayed with the flat-head 4 and I was usually the one towing the guys with the V-6 or V-8 home. It was a great 4 wheeler that could go anywhere. I naturally have to vote for the Jeep. Wish I still had it.
  • 85
    nuclearlemon CO June 2, 2016 at 00:11
    fj40 by far, but still not as cool as the fj55 wagon
  • 86
    Scott Ks July 10, 2016 at 05:03
    Jeep 110%. Jeeps are an American tradition and once in your blood there to stay. Jeeps all the way.
  • 87
    Bill Mass. August 12, 2016 at 15:36
    You guys were not studied on the FJ40 AT ALL!!!!! The FJ40 has DEEP american military history.... And here it is During WWII the US fire bombed Tokyo and nearly took Toyota off the map. Just after the war the US new it had to restore Japanese industry if they were to get Japan back on their feet. The Pentagon decided to give what they called the B Jeep to Toyota to manufacture. It was a mix of Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Dana. It would be bigger and more robust than the Jeep and not as pron to rollover... Toyota made their model of the Jeep aka the FJ40 from 1952 to 1959 supplying the Pacific occupied locations. In 195 Toyota asked if they could commercialize is and the Pentagon said yes. They came out with the Toyota Jeep in 1960 and were immediately sued by Jeep for the name. If you had one of these models it's worth a fortune!!. I 1961 the Landcruiser was born and carried with it all of the BALZ of it predecessor. So there you have it... Deep rooted american history in the Landcruiser.
  • 88
    Tei Monterey, CA November 9, 2016 at 23:12
    Internationally, Toyota land cruisers are more popular, serviceable, and reliable. And while the military look only appeals to very narrow group of population, FJ40's civilian appeal is far more accessible to general public. I want to also note the kind of cheating I witnessed. In essence, the Jeep side presented two different vehicles, military jeep and civilian jeep, by siting appeals of the both. That's not a fair comparison.
  • 89
    Tei Monterey, CA November 9, 2016 at 23:12
    Internationally, Toyota land cruisers are more popular, serviceable, and reliable. And while the military look only appeals to very narrow group of population, FJ40's civilian appeal is far more accessible to general public. I want to also note the kind of cheating I witnessed. In essence, the Jeep side presented two different vehicles, military jeep and civilian jeep, by siting appeals of the both. That's not a fair comparison.

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