24 June 2014

Generation Gap: 1965 Dodge Coronet 500 vs. 1995 BMW M3

In the latest episode of Generation Gap, Davin and Matt compare their favorite performance coupes. Requirements: two doors, four seats and plenty of scoot. Davin picks a Dodge Coronet 500 with a 383 V-8 engine. The Dodge focuses more on straight line performance and pure power. Matt chooses a BMW M3, equipped with a 3.0L straight six. Designed in Germany, it is comfortable on the Autobahn, or something with a few more curves. Which gets your vote?

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79 Reader Comments

  • 1
    Fox North Carolina July 1, 2014 at 14:21
    I love old school and new school, this was a hard decision for me but the M3 takes the win, it has everything the Dodge has, class, power, comfort, a clutch, but has some stuff the Dodge doesn't, flat corners, more comfort, leather, the M3 just wins
  • 2
    James England July 1, 2014 at 07:06
    I can see the appeal of the Dodge of having more personality, torque and appreciation from those who surround you but for everyday use and dynamics, I would take the M3. Except not this US spec M3 as it is a detuned engine. The european spec E36 M3 would have more hp/litre, be more fuel efficient and easier to live on a daily basis. Yes parts aren't cheap but there are a load of aftermarket options though.
  • 3
    Samo Deny Croatia July 1, 2014 at 19:21
    Dodge is a rare car around here, and Bmw like that one can be found in almost every junkyard, and I personaly think that Bmw is overrated.. American classic cars have my vote over almost any european car except Mercedes Benz, and I am from Croatia (europe)
  • 4
    Jimmy D. SoCal July 1, 2014 at 19:27
    The M3 by far. The coronet does have it's appeal, but all that appeal is in the cloud of nostalgia. Dodge has little or no pedigree, the pedigree and tradition that they do have is inconsistent. The M3 however, it's pedigree is traced back to Motorsports, traced back by past and present victories. The fact that you see so many more M3's on the street vs. old dodges is a testament to BMW's consistent and sharp engineering that continues to this day. Also, bimmers are not as intimidating to work on as most other people think. Yeah, it's more difficult than an old muscle car to work on, but not too difficult where you can't work on it in your own driveway. It's not just performance, it's pedigree, consistent winning pedigree.
  • 5
    ethan canada July 1, 2014 at 10:07
    M3 beats cornet all day long
  • 6
    Anonimous Slovenia July 1, 2014 at 10:15
    Cornet 500 all the way, man!
  • 7
    BrandonGlnd92 Atx July 1, 2014 at 10:25
    Should've chosen the E46 instead.
  • 8
    Doug Mare United States July 1, 2014 at 11:10
    Give the poor nerd a break; have him pick something modern that muscle car enthusiasts would actually consider buying and driving. Have the other guy pick something classic that *isn't* a traditional American V-8. There's no real point to this series if there's no chance of a victory for a newer vehicle. It's just awkward and painful if the conclusion is always going to be the same.
  • 9
    Dylan seattle July 2, 2014 at 02:12
  • 10
    Tara Hurlin United States July 2, 2014 at 14:58
    Davin is looking good in the BMW with those sunglasses! ;) M3 all the way.
  • 11
    Shane Irelan United States July 2, 2014 at 15:01
    I'm getting pretty sick of the old v8 vs. New import. It's not even a generation gap. It's always two completely different vehicles, even if they say they're in the same category. Why not do something like a 60's Ferrari vs. a new super car. That would be more interesting.
  • 12
    Carl Beck Clearwater, FL July 2, 2014 at 15:03
    To be reasonable - it should have been a 1964 GTO vs the M3. BMW Sedan Motorsports History? The Datsun 510's ran them off the track. Plus the 510's are still doing it today.!
  • 13
    Mark Romanowski Michigan July 2, 2014 at 15:40
    I agree with Doug, get these guys out of their own comfort zones. Let the people choose which cars they want them to "believe in", and then make the plays based on what they discover they like about the vehicle. Let's face it...you're a classic car insurance company...MOST of your viewers are gonna cast their vote on the side of the classic. I think what we really want to see is these two put into positions, with cars they might not normally pick, where they don't know everything about the car, and need to find out for themselves just as we would have to do. Other than that, the show was a bit too dry for me to consider watching another episode...unless you were to institute this suggestion, then I might watch the next one.
  • 14
    william ny July 2, 2014 at 16:03
    maybe a comparison with a BMW M3 e30 would have been even better? fun to watch anyway
  • 15
    anonymouse USA July 2, 2014 at 16:04
    Should have chosen the e92 with the grumbly V8.
  • 16
    James Wolfard Hollywood,FL July 2, 2014 at 04:19
    Dodge Wins
  • 17
    Gailen David Cantonment, FL July 2, 2014 at 16:29
    I think, considering the choices, it makes no sense.
  • 18
    Don NW Alabama July 2, 2014 at 16:38
    If I wanted a cruiser, take the Dodge. Putt around and rev it up once in awhile to show off the engine. If I want a driver, a corner carver, something that stops on a dime (not Dodge's stopping distance which is the size of Rhode Island), M3 all the way.
  • 19
    Pat Brothers Bridal Veil, OR July 2, 2014 at 16:49
    Dodge Coronet = Great Race Eligible M3 = NOT!
  • 20
    mad macs Kentucky July 2, 2014 at 17:02
    Again, a car for the masses vs a car built specifically for rich kids. No comparison. So whats the point here?
  • 21
    Pete Postma Cypress TX July 2, 2014 at 17:09
    I'd rather be seen in the 65 Dodge. I've heard BMW drivers compared to porcupines.
  • 22
    Doug USA July 2, 2014 at 17:33
    The Coronet has more style, power, and it's torsion bar suspension would outhandle a 1965 period BMW sedan as well.
  • 23
    Mythbuster Nederland July 2, 2014 at 18:03
    Definitely the BMW. If it was a Charger it might be a harder choice, but a Coronet? No way. BMW looks at very least as good as the Coronet, maybe better, it corners better, sounds *good*, and it's becoming a classic like the E30 already is. Coronet just sounds better, and you get more stares because it already is a classic. BMW is also easy to live with as it has a big enough boot, doesn't take a whole lot of gas, and can be used as an every day car easily. Just did a 500 mile trip in a 318iS with no problems.
  • 24
    Tom austin, texas July 2, 2014 at 18:06
    not one out of 100 people would even notice the whatever it was yellow car, let alone wonder what it was.
  • 25
    jeff United States July 2, 2014 at 06:13
    Should have pick the E46 or E30
  • 26
    Fred Fischer U.S.A July 2, 2014 at 18:22
    Hagerty insures muscle cars & classics, old Mopars are part of that customer base. Average guys with cars they can actually restore & repair. Beemers are cool, but American V-8's rule.
  • 27
    Von Voss Irving, TX July 2, 2014 at 18:22
    V8 American power you can hear and feel thru the shifter and every gear, nothing like it.
  • 28
    Martin Ont can. July 2, 2014 at 19:41
    I rather feed North Americans ,who would vote for a foreign piece of crap !
  • 29
    Ed Michigan July 2, 2014 at 19:57
    One word..MOPAR
  • 30
    J.B. United States July 2, 2014 at 20:00
    Coronet sounds and looks cool but that's about it. They couldn't have found a Beemer in a color other than that horrendous yellow? Very unmanly next to the Dodge. What about the radials on the Dodge, they probably didn't help the handling much, but certainly not factory stock. Let's be honest, driveability, BMW all the way.
  • 31
    Drew Wisconsin July 2, 2014 at 20:30
    Both nice cars ... but that Dodge just for the rumble and what it stands for: no frills straight-line go.
  • 32
    Domingo Colorado July 2, 2014 at 20:30
    I am a MOPAR fan all the way. I currently own 2 1967 Coronets. One is the CORONET 500 the other is the Coronet 440. LOVE IT!
  • 33
    Hot Pastrami Newport Beach, CA July 2, 2014 at 20:41
    This shows the destiny of the muscle car era. New plastic to old metal. For me Heavy Metal versus Techno. The only value the BMW provides is a 100+ mile trip. For that, I would opt for an SUV and tow the Mopar. Drive the Mopar at the destination. Sell the BMW and mabye be able to purchase a new headliner for the Coronet.
  • 34
    Kenneth Charlotte Nc July 2, 2014 at 08:43
    M3 all the way!
  • 35
    Don W Modesto, CA July 2, 2014 at 22:11
    At least put a heater in the Dodge if you want me to like it better, and that headliner! The Dodge would be fun, but you could live with the BMW.
  • 36
    JP Fly Over July 2, 2014 at 10:23
    That dodge is up on the fonzarelli cool factor but the m3 is king of do it all. Track it, tour it, etc. As for the collectibility the coronet has sort of peaked, the m3 is on the rise. I predict an upset, nobody really wants to drive an old dodge long throw front bench muscle man "slosh it around the corner" truck of a coupe.
  • 37
    joe98 united States July 2, 2014 at 11:13
    I prefer the BMW over the dodge because not only the BMW is fast but unlike the Dodge it can corner. Also the coronet isn't the car everyone associates with the Dodge brand its the charger of the 70's. Not to mention dodge is owned by Fiat. Also this car never changed the automotive landscape like the 1965 ford mustang or the 1967 Chevy camaro. Not to mention Chrysler was struggling to get younger people to buy their cars.
  • 38
    Ted Central Illinois July 2, 2014 at 23:28
    Not much of a Mopar man , but hell of a lot closer to what I like than the Krautmobile !
  • 39
    DH Bennett United States July 2, 2014 at 00:31
    For decades Car-nuts have talked about the "excellent handling" and "race inspired technology" of BMW cars. These days I have to wonder if these vehicles haven't become so compromised for the sake of "everyday drive-ability" that they no longer deserve those distinctions. The E36 M3 wasn't made by hand and its engine wasn't built by the Motorsport division. This car is a sales tool and little more. The Coronet 500 would be stupid, and i do mean stupid, fun on a second by second basis.
  • 40
    Nate USA July 3, 2014 at 01:35
    I have to stick with my mopar I've owned two dodges and they are beasts, fast (in a strait line), but the newer m3 (not the '95) are really cool looking
  • 41
    Jerry R ri July 3, 2014 at 15:32
    both cars are cool, but try to insure the BMW with Hagerty ...not going to happen!
  • 42
    Derek Hummelstown PA July 3, 2014 at 17:18
    I own a 1967 coronet with a blower. I have never owned a M series. I would race for pinks or cash any day. I live in America, I don't care about mpg, or how many cows were made into schnitzel.
  • 43
    Steve B Iowa July 3, 2014 at 18:19
    This was just to much of an apples to oranges comparison. The Dodge is 28 years older, that's old tech compared to new. It's American muscle compared to European styling. Being old school, I'll take the Dodge over the Beemer any day. Those are just my thoughts.
  • 44
    SILVERHORSE347 Earth, I think? July 3, 2014 at 19:16
  • 45
    Dave Nashville July 3, 2014 at 08:00
    30 yrs of difference - can't compare the drivability. Had a 68 4 dr in 69, to me the build quality was slipping, though if you buy it today the faults should have been sorted (and sorry I got rid of a 2 dr 65 Dart GT to this day)- would buy the BMW today.
  • 46
    Justin Virginia Beach July 3, 2014 at 08:35
    Apples vs. oranges. What's the point!?
  • 47
    Bubbie Maryland July 3, 2014 at 08:47
    I agree with James, above post. The BMW is a better everyday car. However, you do not buy a 1965 Cornet for everyday use. That is far too impractical. A Cornet is a weekend cruiser, and show car.
  • 48
    Tom Fort Worht July 3, 2014 at 08:57
    every one knows there are more pricks in BMWs than there are on a cactus
  • 49
    Dan Michigan July 3, 2014 at 09:05
    This comparison hits close to home as I own a BMW 540i and a 1970 Monte Carlo SS454. The BMW will outperform the Chevy in the curves or even a straight line, but getting behind the wheel of a good old American big block is something special. Thumbs up and strangers approaching at gas stations is guaranteed in the old Chevy. But after a day of driving the monte I start to miss the BMW , guess I'm spoiled.
  • 50
    Bob Akron,OH July 3, 2014 at 09:26
    You can take that over hyped BMW to the junk yard. Cornet 500 only way to go!!
  • 51
    Bob Morton USA July 3, 2014 at 09:33
    Mighty MOPAR Rules! Had a 67' 500 she was sweet! The name Mopar was established during WW II they used to stamp motor parts on the crates. To save ink they shortened it to MOPAR
  • 52
    Joe Porter USA July 3, 2014 at 09:49
    As a 65 Dodge Coronet owner, I am biased. Were either of those guys even born before 1965? Every time I drive my Coronet, I am in high school again in 1965. It was a great time with great cars. There's just no comparison between these two cars.
  • 53
    Walter Austin, TX July 3, 2014 at 10:49
    Weekend cruiser - Coronet hands down. Daily Driver -- BMW (but I'd have to paint it).
  • 54
    Scott US July 3, 2014 at 11:30
    Dodge hands down! Pure classic! You won't even get a second look in the Beemer!
  • 55
    Scott New Jersey July 3, 2014 at 12:12
    If it was a 1970 Coronet R/T, I'd be all over that but in this case the M3 is my choice
  • 56
    Bruce McElya Simpsonville, KY July 3, 2014 at 12:31
    It does seem an odd comparison. In a straight line I would chose the dodge. In the turns, the M3 would get the nod. Both would be a lot of fun to drive, but for entirely different reasons.
  • 57
    EdB USA July 3, 2014 at 12:32
    Having owned a Roadrunner and a Challenger/RT, I am into Mopar's. Having also gone over to the dark side (928 Porsche's) I see both for what they are, great cars. Old me goes Mopar, current me goes M3.
  • 58
    Sam Powell Gaithersburg MD July 4, 2014 at 07:18
    I own a '69 Dart, and a "97 BMW 328. Both are great. The BMW is much more drivable, but I like the Dart for what it is. I would give up the BMW before the Dart though.
  • 59
    john marchette Ogden, UT July 4, 2014 at 07:22
    As an owner of both vintage ford (1977) and chevy (1950 & 1967) pickups, I must say I had to go with the dodge, BMW has never appealed to me in terms of looks or sound. Like my vehicles the Dodge turns the heads with the sound and with the styling, Sorry BMW!
  • 60
    mistmeister Wine Country, NY July 4, 2014 at 09:21
    A classic no-winner/no-loser argument. If you want to go fast in a straight line for short periods, pick the Dodge. If you want to drive two lane twisty roads or cruise long distances comfortably, pick the BMW. Admittedly, as the owner of a treasured '95 M3 my choice would be the bahn burner.
  • 61
    Larry Elliott United States July 4, 2014 at 10:24
    own a 65 Coronet. wouldn't trade it for the world!
  • 62
    Ozzie Annis Nashua, NH July 4, 2014 at 11:34
    I'm a Mopar and Dodge man through and through--but there certainly would be room in my stable for an M series. :)
  • 63
    Ron Moore United States July 5, 2014 at 17:39
    95 M3 price new $32 to $35,000, current NADA high book value $8,000. 65 Coronet 500 w/440 price new $2,400, current high book NADA value $10,000. Which would you rather invest in?
  • 64
    Pete Weaver Arizona, USA July 5, 2014 at 18:07
    Gotta love the MOPARS - they used their audio in the movies for Fords and Chevy's alike!
  • 65
    Nauris Latvia July 5, 2014 at 06:31
    I would say M3, but E30 would be better by look. Anyway E36 in Europe version is better. And in Europe I would say that to get parts for Dodge that would be one trip thought seven circles of hell, but for BMW that is quite easy and not so expencive. Moreover BMW creates feeling like you are standing and train goes right into your ass each shift, that is why people loves BMW, this car can own you. But dodge that is classic, it brings you other pleasure. So I would say, everyone just should drive with both of them, for a some time, just to get feelings from both cars.
  • 66
    Adrian Demers Sherman, Tx July 5, 2014 at 07:28
    Cornet wins this just in the fact that the performance side of it wins every time. It's doesn't specify straight line or cornering performance. Just "Performance Coupe" the pure horsepower and American feel of the Cornet is Muscle it screams performance and it turns heads every time.
  • 67
    Michael Central U.S.A. July 9, 2014 at 15:25
    I've owned small block and big block muscle. Mopar, Chevy, Pontiac, Ford. Loved them all but, scary fast straight line speed, even more scary brakes. But, in the modern era I enjoy being able to actually turn a corner without rolling over onto the door handles. It's possible to modify some early muscle cars to handle but, ... a Coronet ... that's a stretch. To be fair though, even the BMW M cars still need suspension upgrades to handle the way they really SHOULD. I've had a couple that the final tally showed more $$$ spent on upgrades than what I paid for the car. It's an odd comparison but, fun anyway. I think I'd want to build another garage and keep both.
  • 68
    Spencer Carlsbad, CA July 9, 2014 at 04:43
    M3 all day
  • 69
    Michael Central U.S.A. July 9, 2014 at 21:31
    I've owned small block and big block muscle. Mopar, Chevy, Pontiac, Ford. Loved them all but, scary fast straight line speed, even more scary brakes. But, in the modern era I enjoy being able to actually turn a corner without rolling over onto the door handles. It's possible to modify some early muscle cars to handle but, ... a Coronet ... that's a stretch. To be fair though, even the BMW M cars still need suspension upgrades to handle the way they really SHOULD. I've had a couple that the final tally showed more $$$ spent on upgrades than what I paid for the car. It's an odd comparison but, fun anyway. I think I'd want to build another garage and keep both.
  • 70
    JC Suazo California July 11, 2014 at 03:46
    Love classic vehicles but I would sell my soul to any M3 Generation, BMW's really mean it when they say that they are The Ultimate Driving Machine. Compare a 2003 Dinan M5 to a 70's Dodge with a Scat Pack, now that will be interesting.. and weird at the same time.. hahaha
  • 71
    road-race 72Dart Oregon July 12, 2014 at 10:50
    Wilwood and Performance Suspension Technology can make that Dodge stop and turn just as well as the BMW. Replace the old stamped steel cross-member and control arms with modern tubular parts. Slotted disc brakes, some thick sway bars, heavy duty torsion bars, and urethane bushings will have that Dodge pulling Gs and cornering flat.
  • 72
    David PA July 14, 2014 at 17:35
    Having worked for a BMW Porsche and Audi Dealer the last 25 years I would say own them both for different reasons and drive them for those same reasons. Being a 383 Mopar makes it more affordable and the M3 is the only BMW I would even consider. But I still prefer my Stasis tuned A4 A4 Avant to fetch the parts I need for my 69 383 Charger.
  • 73
    Michael Brazil July 16, 2014 at 08:28
    I'm more an old school guy, so I'll never put an old car and a modern car in the same scale, coz I'd always take the old one home! But I like some modern cars... I'd take both home!
  • 74
    Daniel Canada July 22, 2014 at 05:34
    Beimer, waaay better as an everyday driver
  • 75
    Jeff USA July 27, 2014 at 19:29
    I prefer the dodge because I have one of those, but its really an apples and oranges comparison...
  • 76
    Edwin F. Brooklyn NY. August 11, 2014 at 13:15
    There is nothing like a classic muscle car in this planet ,and America has the only ones,Dodge,mopar,hemi engines is part of that..
  • 77
    Andrew Brooklyn, NY August 25, 2014 at 06:56
    This may sound seriously like I am indecisive...but I really love them both! Now before you get irate, let me defend myself; my daily driver is a BMW 328...BUT I also own a 1970 Big Block Plymouth Cuda...& it's insured by Hagerty!!!! so you can see my emotional dilemma! Great show good dynamics between Matt & Davin!
  • 78
    Dave TC September 3, 2014 at 18:10
    I like the M3 but I might be a bit biased.
  • 79
    Steve Holiday, Florida November 1, 2014 at 00:18
    This is a very odd comparison. Since I am a 65' Coronet 500 owner and lover and have owned and raced 5 of them, my vote goes to the CORONET 500 without any doubt. But still I think this was an insane comparison. If you were to go by year, the the Break My Windows would be squashed. The nerdy guy brings up HISTORY of BMW and acts as though DODGE plays no part in history.. WHAT A LAUGH!! Maybe he should take a ride in a HEMI car. Also nothing had been done to update brakes or suspension in the Coronet, but had on the BMW, so again this was insane to compare. Topping everything else off they never raced head to head. The MOPAR would stomp the "CORNER CARVER" from a stand still or from any MRH hands down. Also they picked a Coronet that was not loaded and compared it to a 30 year newer BMW that was loaded and then had big upgrades!! In the end if this was just 2 cars sitting side by side it would have to be the 65' Coronet 500 anyway as it is much more wanted car BY FAR. Oh yeah, how much was that BMW compared to the CORONET 500?? And what are they both worth TODAY!!!!! hahahahahahaaaa...

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