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The Connection Between Real Estate And Muscle Cars: Why now is the time to buy

Rob Sass

November 28, 2012

As a whole, the collector car market weathered the economic downturn pretty well. In fact, collector cars in general are ahead of the stock market — which before backing off had come within 600 points of its all-time high reached during the summer of 2007. By comparison, most sectors of the collector car market are at or above where they were in 2007.

Notably absent from the above generalization are muscle cars, which took the biggest and most publicized hit during the dark days of 2009. High flying Chevelle LS6s plummeted in value by two-thirds in a few short months, as did seemingly anything with a Boss or Hemi motor. There were a number of reasons for this: First and foremost, real estate was at the headwaters of most of the money that flowed into the market. Whether it was money sourced from ballooning home equity or cash from a successful small business like a drywall contractor who morphed into a home builder during the real estate boom, the connection was undeniable.

The crash in the real estate market took the octane out of the tank of the muscle car market. Prices for big name muscle fell even harder and faster than Sunbelt housing. In other sectors of the car market, a strong Euro and a desire on the part of overseas investors to place as much money as possible into tangibles propped up other sectors of the blue chip collector car market. For the most part, though, these people were looking for Ferrari 250 SWBs, not Hemi ’Cudas. Muscle cars simply don’t trade in a global market the way Ferraris do.

Fast forward a few years and signs of a real estate recovery are everywhere. Median home prices have inched upward for the last seven consecutive months and are now 5.8 percent higher than they were a year and a half ago. New housing starts have also picked up during the past year, showing a 37 percent improvement. New hiring in residential home construction historically lags behind new housing starts, but even that benchmark has been stable for the past two years.If construction picks up and leads to more jobs and rising home prices, a lot of the pieces of the puzzle will be in place.

The fundamental questions are: Will former muscle car buyers be resilient and return to the market? Will rising home prices translate to disposable income that can be directed toward muscle cars? And ultimately, will muscle car prices return to boom-time levels, and if so, when?

Interestingly, muscle car prices are already on the rebound, so that to me indicates that the answers to the above are, at least in part, largely “yes.” Particularly for the baby boomer generation, to whom muscle cars appeal the most. Boomers were born between 1945 and 1964, and the oldest of them are not even 70 yet. They’re still in their prime collecting years and the youngest are just hitting their peak earning years and becoming empty nesters with fewer obligations and more disposable income.

Shelby GT350s that were $300,000-plus before the crash fell to as little as $150,000. They’re already mostly back. Yenko and COPO Camaros have exceeded prices from six years ago. Hemi Mopars and LS6 Chevelles, meanwhile, still have a way to go. Some of the small block cars of the Trans Am era like the AAR ’Cuda and Mark Donohue Javelins are appealing now, too. But the point is, the window is beginning to close on picking up some of these great cars up at a price point where they’re affordable and where there is an upside in the not-too-distant future.

While it may be five or even 10 years before the real estate market returns to full health, trend reporting always seems to lag behind what people on the ground are experiencing. If you wait until the mainstream media finally reports the return to full health of the real estate market, you will probably have waited far too long to pick up that Boss Mustang.

 

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Comments

  1. John Brunswick GA

    For the most part, I disagree. Wishful thinking here on Real Estate and car values. When Hemis come out to the Auction blocks, you will know things are coming back. We are not even close to that. Real Estate coming back? Have you seen the Foreclosure market continued growth??

  2. John Brunswick GA

    For the most part, I disagree. Wishful thinking here on Real Estate and car values. When Hemis come out to the Auction blocks, you will know things are coming back. We are not even close to that. Real Estate coming back? Have you seen the Foreclosure market continued growth??

  3. John Brunswick GA

    For the most part, I disagree. Wishful thinking here on Real Estate and car values. When Hemis come out to the Auction blocks, you will know things are coming back. We are not even close to that. Real Estate coming back? Have you seen the Foreclosure market continued growth??

  4. John Brunswick GA

    For the most part, I disagree. Wishful thinking here on Real Estate and car values. When Hemis come out to the Auction blocks, you will know things are coming back. We are not even close to that. Real Estate coming back? Have you seen the Foreclosure market continued growth??

  5. Mike L West Palm Bch, Fl

    Jason, I also agree with the article. Collectors are starting to see the under-rated values of the Wagoneer's. Here's little time line for everyone: In today's market, the Jeep Grand Wagoneer's are very desirable and collectable. They were the first luxury S.U.V.s. Finally, over the last few years there has been a steady increase in Wagoneer's prices at auction's across the country. In 1978 Lee Iacocca started with Chrysler and totally redesigned the Wagoneer with his staff. The prior model years had very little options and were not very dependable. Iacocca, had a vision, like he did with the Mustangs at Ford, too build a quality luxury S.U.V. for the public. By the late 1980's Chrysler was the only manufacture producing a luxury S.U.V. Ford and GM realized that Icocca’s luxury wagoneer’s were a success, so Ford and GM upgraded the Ford Bronco and the GM Blazer with better options. The Wagoneer's options included power windows, p/s and p/w brakes, air conditioning, overhead courtesy console lights, leather interior with plush carpeting and powered by 360 motor with automatic transmission. Though EPA fuel mileage is rated at 11 city, 13 highway, it's not that much lower than the current range offered by today's big SUVs, and understandable when its archaic 360ci, two-barrel carbureted V-8 engine and three-speed automatic 4 x 4 are considered. It's very hard to watch an old movie without seeing a Wagoneer used or being driven by the actors. Movie producers recognized the publics desire for these Wagoneer's and used them in movies like : 1988 Great Outdoors, 1994 Disclosure, 2000 The Way Of The Gun, 2005 Black Dawn, 2009 Knight Rider,2011 Planet Of The Apes, 2010-2012 Justified, and many other films... So Please...”Give the Wagoneer’s” the recognition they deserve. They are great American Made vehicles...

  6. Mike L West Palm Bch, Fl

    Jason, I also agree with the article. Collectors are starting to see the under-rated values of the Wagoneer's. Here's little time line for everyone: In today's market, the Jeep Grand Wagoneer's are very desirable and collectable. They were the first luxury S.U.V.s. Finally, over the last few years there has been a steady increase in Wagoneer's prices at auction's across the country. In 1978 Lee Iacocca started with Chrysler and totally redesigned the Wagoneer with his staff. The prior model years had very little options and were not very dependable. Iacocca, had a vision, like he did with the Mustangs at Ford, too build a quality luxury S.U.V. for the public. By the late 1980's Chrysler was the only manufacture producing a luxury S.U.V. Ford and GM realized that Icocca’s luxury wagoneer’s were a success, so Ford and GM upgraded the Ford Bronco and the GM Blazer with better options. The Wagoneer's options included power windows, p/s and p/w brakes, air conditioning, overhead courtesy console lights, leather interior with plush carpeting and powered by 360 motor with automatic transmission. Though EPA fuel mileage is rated at 11 city, 13 highway, it's not that much lower than the current range offered by today's big SUVs, and understandable when its archaic 360ci, two-barrel carbureted V-8 engine and three-speed automatic 4 x 4 are considered. It's very hard to watch an old movie without seeing a Wagoneer used or being driven by the actors. Movie producers recognized the publics desire for these Wagoneer's and used them in movies like : 1988 Great Outdoors, 1994 Disclosure, 2000 The Way Of The Gun, 2005 Black Dawn, 2009 Knight Rider,2011 Planet Of The Apes, 2010-2012 Justified, and many other films... So Please...”Give the Wagoneer’s” the recognition they deserve. They are great American Made vehicles...

  7. Dave B Hastings, MN

    Chrysler didn't get their hands on Jeep until 1987, and couldn't really impact the brand until the next design cycle. It was AMC which pioneered the luxury SUV market. Now that Chrysler has been given to FIAT, I wonder if Jeep fans will continue to purchase them.

  8. Dave B Hastings, MN

    Chrysler didn't get their hands on Jeep until 1987, and couldn't really impact the brand until the next design cycle. It was AMC which pioneered the luxury SUV market. Now that Chrysler has been given to FIAT, I wonder if Jeep fans will continue to purchase them.

  9. Jason Paynter Louisville, KY

    Hello... I have truly enjoyed your articles and find this website most informative. I am curious however as to why the Jeep brand is not an option on your drop down for valuation purposes? I would anticipate with the current popularity of the Grand Wagoneer, that Hagerty's resources would be most helpful for the enthusiast or collector. Just a thought!

  10. Mike S Oregon

    I agree that muscle car prices are on the way up but not because of any rebound of the real estate market. The simple truth is that the rich are getting richer and have more disposable income to invest in these very expensive cars.

  11. Mike S Oregon

    I agree that muscle car prices are on the way up but not because of any rebound of the real estate market. The simple truth is that the rich are getting richer and have more disposable income to invest in these very expensive cars.

  12. Jim K Cleveland

    Prices on muscle may inch up, but the vast majority of people who own these are getting old enough that they may not be driving much. Their kids will eventually inherit these cars, kids who are more interested in iphones and Subaru WRX's, not Dad's 68 Le Mans. You may see a rise in prices that may climb for the next 10 years, but I bet in as few as 15 but more like 20-30 years, you can have your Boss 302 for pennies on the dollar. Just think about the people chasing after cars from the 40's; the interest like the owners are dying off.

  13. John A Michigan

    We have seen it before where non "car guys" are buying vehicles as investments rather than to use and enjoy. They inflate the market and eventually it settles back down to a sane level. As the long time owner of a big block mid-year Corvette (39 yrs), I have watched the value of my car swing up and down. Let's buy the cars because we want to use them and share them with the automotive community.

  14. John R New York

    I cannot afford big dollar cars or or real estate, so any connection is of academic interest to me, as is comparing Hemi Cudas and Ferraris. I guess I represent the grass roots "ordinary Joe/Jane" segment of the hobby. My good condition but ordinary old cars (2) and good condition but ordinary home (all paid for) have both taken real world value hits, regardless of anyone's reports or hype. Maybe there is a connection in that sense. I agree with John A. that we should look at what we like, to use and share, within reason. Most old cars will show a value gain if held long enough, but I don't spend more than I can afford to lose.

  15. Hagerty Traverse City, MI

    Thanks, Jason and Mike, for your comments. Your collective interest in our valuation resources is what makes future development possible. We receive hundreds of requests each month to add specific vehicles to our price guide, and our goal is to ultimately cover all the cars and trucks that matter to you, including the Grand Wagoneer. While we don’t yet have an inclusion date set for the Grand Wagoneer, it is on our short list. Thank you for your patience and understanding as we work towards expanding the valuation resources we offer.

  16. Hagerty Traverse City, MI

    Thanks, Jason and Mike, for your comments. Your collective interest in our valuation resources is what makes future development possible. We receive hundreds of requests each month to add specific vehicles to our price guide, and our goal is to ultimately cover all the cars and trucks that matter to you, including the Grand Wagoneer. While we don’t yet have an inclusion date set for the Grand Wagoneer, it is on our short list. Thank you for your patience and understanding as we work towards expanding the valuation resources we offer.

  17. BrentF Toronto

    Interesting analysis. Thanks. I wonder what the relationship is between Real Estate and C1/C2 Corvettes, and whether they differ from "Muscle Cars" per se?

  18. BrentF Toronto

    Interesting analysis. Thanks. I wonder what the relationship is between Real Estate and C1/C2 Corvette vales, assuming they differ from Muscle Cars at large?

  19. BrentF Toronto

    Interesting analysis. Thanks. I wonder what the relationship is between Real Estate and C1/C2 Corvette vales, assuming they differ from Muscle Cars at large?

  20. Mitch T. Flagstaff, AZ

    It's interesting that you focus on the muscle cars that are abundunt in the market place and were less expensive new than some of the European cars of the same era. If car guys are also investors they would be looking at those models that are rising in the market place and not after a bubble. Take for instance any 911 Porsche between (1965-1982). The early models in great shape are skyrocketing and the later models are incredible buys and won't be for long. They don't have the backing of most muscle car baby-boomers but one of those, a close friend of mine, sold his 1967 Camaro and bought a nice Porsche and can't believe the difference in the driving experience. He will never go back.

  21. Mitch T. Flagstaff, AZ

    It's interesting that you focus on the muscle cars that are abundunt in the market place and were less expensive new than some of the European cars of the same era. If car guys are also investors they would be looking at those models that are rising in the market place and not after a bubble. Take for instance any 911 Porsche between (1965-1982). The early models in great shape are skyrocketing and the later models are incredible buys and won't be for long. They don't have the backing of most muscle car baby-boomers but one of those, a close friend of mine, sold his 1967 Camaro and bought a nice Porsche and can't believe the difference in the driving experience. He will never go back.

  22. Mitch T. Flagstaff, AZ

    It's interesting that you focus on the muscle cars that are abundunt in the market place and were less expensive new than some of the European cars of the same era. If car guys are also investors they would be looking at those models that are rising in the market place and not after a bubble. Take for instance any 911 Porsche between (1965-1982). The early models in great shape are skyrocketing and the later models are incredible buys and won't be for long. They don't have the backing of most muscle car baby-boomers but one of those, a close friend of mine, sold his 1967 Camaro and bought a nice Porsche and can't believe the difference in the driving experience. He will never go back.

  23. Edd A sacramento

    Muscle car, and hot rod prices have gone up and down in the last 10 years or so. One thing I see is that some sellers think that if the major collector car auction sells a shelby GT 350 for 150K there car is worth that. I hear all the time, they sold a car just like mine at the major car auction for X amount of dollars. So my car is worth that. The trouble with that statement is the seller, prices his car to high for the average car guy to buy . Remember there are the real world prices, and the major collector car auction prices.

  24. Chuck V. Columbia, MD

    Agree on the move from muscle cars to excellent imported cars like the Porsche 911. I suggest that if you enjoy collectors cars you take a ride in an air cooled Porsche. I wasn't at all into the idea until I drove one. I have owned a couple Porsches for the last five years and they are really fun to drive. Parts have been easy and repairs resonable. I'm a baby boomer who has moved on from 60-70's cars to sports cars in general. Could be a trend...

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  26. Stephan W. Arkansas

    Great website! I'm all in with Jason's comments on adding a valuation resource for the Grand Wagoneer. As an owner of an "Effie" final edition as he wrote about on this site, it would be very interesting to see how the collectible market views this vehicle. It's truly an American classic. We've seen the interest in finding decent running models in our area pick up tremendously in the last few years.

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